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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2016 12:23 p.m. PST

"When we think of the American Revolution, we think of brave patriots coming together to resist a tyrannical ruler in defense of noble ideals. It's a stirring narrative, and one the Founders did their best to encourage after the war. But as historian Holger Hoock argues, the truth is far more complex: The Revolution was not only a high-minded battle over principles, but also a profoundly violent civil war—one that shaped the nation in ways we have only begun to understand…"


See here


Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member12 Sep 2016 12:51 p.m. PST

"Rewrites the history of America's founding".

Yeah,yeah. We'll see.

Bill N12 Sep 2016 1:14 p.m. PST

And this is supposed to be news?

cosmicbank12 Sep 2016 6:39 p.m. PST

Was it Franklin that said Revolutions are like Bastard children?

42flanker12 Sep 2016 11:43 p.m. PST

You mean- we LOST the Colonies?

Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member13 Sep 2016 3:17 a.m. PST

No, we knew where they were; we just didn't want them that badly any more.

42flanker13 Sep 2016 4:23 a.m. PST

Ah, I was concerned there for a moment. To lose thirteen colonies looks like carelessness

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2016 7:35 a.m. PST

Always remember, most of us on TMP have far more knowledge of these things than the average person. Hence, the book.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2016 10:28 a.m. PST



42flanker13 Sep 2016 4:13 p.m. PST

"Mediocrity thrives on public ignorance"

FlyXwire02 Oct 2016 6:11 a.m. PST

"As does arrogance"

42flanker03 Oct 2016 2:52 a.m. PST

"Down with this sort of thing!"

Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member03 Oct 2016 8:31 a.m. PST

"Careful, now!"

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2017 10:51 a.m. PST

For you naysayers, I suggest you go to Amazon and see what historians and periodicals gave it rave reviews.

42flanker14 Sep 2017 11:57 a.m. PST

Somebody might even read the book

42flanker15 Sep 2017 1:10 p.m. PST

Although having dipped into the book via g**gle books, I suspect you won't learn much you didn't know already- and in places may find you know more than the author.

There is a certain degree of novelising for effect.

"It's the violents, stupid."

RudyNelson18 Sep 2017 7:24 a.m. PST

So , my British cousins, do you think the American fight for independence encouraged the adoption of the successful Commonwealth systems?
While I do and I think in some ways the Americans would have been better off, in others there would have been serious problems with maintaining the unity of the region under one government.
Interesting topic for discussion.

42flanker18 Sep 2017 3:17 p.m. PST

'Canadia,' 'Appalachia,' 'Louisiana' & 'New Mexico'

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