peterx | 07 Sep 2016 4:40 a.m. PST |
If there is no crying in wargaming, what do you do in cases of disappointment and bad luck? Do you: A. Whine B. Leave the game C. Get a frosty adult beverage D. Complain to the Gamemaster and other players E. Throw your miniatures G. Pound your fists against the table H. Turn to loose women or men and dark jazz clubs I. Keep a stiff upper lip, old boy, it's only toy soldiers. K. Other, please explain |
Karellian Knight | 07 Sep 2016 5:22 a.m. PST |
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Russ Lockwood | 07 Sep 2016 5:25 a.m. PST |
Amateurs! Real losers overturn the table, knock over a bookcase, and rip pictures off the wall…and that's just when you lose the initiative at the start of the game. :) |
redbanner4145 | 07 Sep 2016 5:26 a.m. PST |
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grtbrt | 07 Sep 2016 5:27 a.m. PST |
don't know . I don't have bad luck and am only disappointed by others not reaching my expectations of them (so that is their reason to cry not mine ) In which case I might switch my drink from a Speyside to an island Malt. |
John the Greater | 07 Sep 2016 5:50 a.m. PST |
Inveigh against the cruel fates, then cry havoc and loose the dogs of war. Alternatively, remain silent and adopt a smug attitude when I roll eight 6's and the guy on the receiving end inveighs against the cruel fates. |
Gunfreak | 07 Sep 2016 5:55 a.m. PST |
J: it's a nice day to try out that homemade flamethrower! |
Chokidar | 07 Sep 2016 6:04 a.m. PST |
Don't have to turn to loose women etc.. they are permanent fixtures…:-) |
Extra Crispy | 07 Sep 2016 6:37 a.m. PST |
Cry loudly "These rules suck!" When lucky cry "I love these rules!" |
vtsaogames | 07 Sep 2016 6:54 a.m. PST |
Damn the dice when losing, remark that everything went just as planned when winning, especially when winning by incredible dice throws. Oh yeah, and get a frosty adult beverage, if I haven't already done that. |
Duke Beardy Dad | 07 Sep 2016 7:00 a.m. PST |
C and I for certain. At the end of the day bad luck and disappointment are all subjective, whereas enjoying the company of a good gamer and a good pint more than makes up for the outcome of a game. |
Ottoathome | 07 Sep 2016 7:09 a.m. PST |
K. I laugh and have a good time. It's only a game, nothing more, it's a silly, stupid little hobby- "grown men playing with toy soldiers and getting very heated about it too!" It has no connection to real life, or real war, and it doesn't mean I would be an excellent or a terrible general, and it's all make believe and mummery. I go to a game to have fun, be with friends, laugh, tell jokes, cat about people who aren't there, enjoy pleasant moments where I can live for myself, not for employer, or right or God or my family. Nothing is proved, verified, learned or discovered in war games. It's a mummery of war, and a game, no different from monopoly, chutes and ladders, or The Barbie Game. It's just an excuse to be entertained, have a good time, and play. I don't even mind it when I'm in a situation where I know the game is fixed against me, I'll play along. I've found that in situations like that conspiring in your own destruction takes all the fun out of it for the "fixers." |
Old Wolfman | 07 Sep 2016 7:14 a.m. PST |
I and K,which involves some serious rethinking of my tactics,and such. And I have seen others do A,C &D. I saw one dude at a gaming con who did A,C,D inside 3 turns in the first game of the day. Fella got really browned off then skedaddled. |
robert piepenbrink | 07 Sep 2016 7:20 a.m. PST |
If it's actual bad luck--or bad planning on my part, which does happen, I try for I, but sometimes slip into A and feel guilty afterward. Actual bad game design--as in, a single activation or reinforcement roll is more important than anyone's decisions, for instance--may lead to a bit of D, hopefully after the battle. And prolonged inactivity or rules I'm not up to--too complex if you're not a regular player, or the dreaded "I'll tell you when you do something wrong" has been known to lead to B if I can scrounge up a replacement player. I won't leave a gamer in the lurch, but sometimes its obvious that the gamemaster doesn't place much value on my time and participation. |
Dynaman8789 | 07 Sep 2016 7:25 a.m. PST |
I cry like a baby. If the luck is bad enough you get a good chuckle out of it – everyone I know has been diced to death at least once. |
cavcrazy | 07 Sep 2016 7:53 a.m. PST |
K. I wait for the next game and seek my revenge! |
wrgmr1 | 07 Sep 2016 8:25 a.m. PST |
K. Laugh, there's always another game. |
Bismarck | 07 Sep 2016 8:29 a.m. PST |
+1 to Extra Crispy and wrgmr1. commit both acts simultaneously. of course there is the other favorite tactic of harassing and blaming it on your favorite GM. Hey, Chuckaroobob! ;-) |
45thdiv | 07 Sep 2016 9:08 a.m. PST |
I'm not crying. I just got some flock in my eye. |
McKinstry | 07 Sep 2016 9:29 a.m. PST |
I recall a story about a DBM player that used a base with inverted nails as his camp area for, I think, some Balkan medieval army and when the dice failed him, he would drill them out and impale them as a warning to others. |
Ragbones | 07 Sep 2016 9:50 a.m. PST |
+1 for 45thdiv |
Frederick | 07 Sep 2016 10:20 a.m. PST |
I & K There's no reason not to be civil And for K, congratulate the winners like a good chap should |
Mako11 | 07 Sep 2016 10:43 a.m. PST |
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Tacitus | 07 Sep 2016 11:12 a.m. PST |
I threaten the dice. Usually off to the side and sotto voce. They either understand the real threat to their existence or choose to defy me knowing certain doom (hadn't yet considered impaling) or replacement await them. For the humans involved, I whine a little, cry a little, laugh it off with all the guys a little. Hey, I just broke into song! |
Toronto48 | 07 Sep 2016 11:21 a.m. PST |
K Nothing irks a smug player more then a non reaction by an opponent. to a good or bad situation The opponent can't figure out if you expected it all along and he is playing into your scheme or you really are unflappable |
Old Contemptibles | 07 Sep 2016 11:37 a.m. PST |
It's my wargame and I'll cry if I want to. |
Old Contemptibles | 07 Sep 2016 11:37 a.m. PST |
Other: It's my wargame and I'll cry if I want to. |
Bashytubits | 07 Sep 2016 11:46 a.m. PST |
I cannot believe you do not have an option of blame the dice. In games I have played I have lost count of the times the players claim they only lost because of bad dice, never because of a bad plan or decision. +1 Rallynow |
Chuckaroobob | 07 Sep 2016 12:01 p.m. PST |
Bismark, I'm watching you! Personally I usually go with A and D. But I'm working on being a better sport. |
Streitax | 07 Sep 2016 12:39 p.m. PST |
Retire to my chambers with a good scotch, my Wembley and a single bullet. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 07 Sep 2016 1:53 p.m. PST |
"If there is no crying in wargaming, what do you do in cases of disappointment and bad luck?" Sorry, I don't really understand how you can experience disappointment in a wargame. You're wargaming, for heaven's sake. It's one of the two or three most wonderful experiences you can have, regardless of the outcome. Just enjoy yourself. It is possible, I suppose, to be disappointed in unintelligible or otherwise disappointing rules, or in an unprepared or disorganized game master, but those don't sound like what you're talking about, and certainly don't merit tears (unless you spent way too much on that rule book). Regarding bad luck, you are playing a wargame: you have already won the lottery of life. Don't get greedy with Lady Luck. You will only cause yourself disappointment. Regarding no crying in wargames, I must disagree, at least as to the figures on the table. Remember what is good in life: to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Lamenting women are going to be crying. So there is crying in wargames. |
Tacitus | 07 Sep 2016 2:40 p.m. PST |
you are playing a wargame: you have already won the lottery of life Love it! |
coopman | 07 Sep 2016 3:26 p.m. PST |
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Old Contemptibles | 07 Sep 2016 8:43 p.m. PST |
Don't know why there was a double post? TMP magic. |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 07 Sep 2016 9:27 p.m. PST |
There are things other than disappointment and bad luck? |
tkdguy | 07 Sep 2016 10:44 p.m. PST |
If it was a roll of the dice that made me lose, I microwave the offending dice until they melt. I make the other dice watch, so they learn the price of failure. |
War Panda | 08 Sep 2016 7:08 a.m. PST |
The manner of losing would have a bearing on my actions. All of my games are with friends and family and so this is not an issue but in the past I'd be pissed with myself if I made a mistake or I'd be pissed with my opponent if they were taking too much credit for the win and were milking it too much. For some reason the board game Risk peed me right off. But I've matured and mellowed over the years so now I'm a definite E followed by G and then I'm a classic A for the rest of the evening (I'm very good company) |
Khusrau | 10 Sep 2016 10:18 a.m. PST |
C,C,C,C,C, ungracious winners speech then some more C. |
Supercilius Maximus | 12 Sep 2016 3:16 a.m. PST |
Retire to my chambers with a good scotch, my Wembley and a single bullet. You're going to shoot yourself with a football ground? This I've got to see!!!! |