"Yes, Norway actually has infantry battalions! Who knew!" Topic

Interesting news. This thread, shockingly, announced that Norway had opened infantry positions to women.

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I honestly think that the real, shocking, news here is that Norway ACTUALLY HAS infantry battalions for them to be in. Perhaps SIX or more of them!!!!

This graphic seems to indicate that little known fact:

If you look closely at the little boxes you'll notice something like six of them have those NATO x's in them. Granted three of them are mechanized infantry… and we all know that they are just tanker want-to-be's who were shut out because they just weren't cool enough to enter the armor branch!

BUT… if you look closely you'll see at least ONE, if not TWO of those boxy things seem to indicate that there are honest to God infantry. Only.. it's marked as a regiment! So is that three battalions of actual infantry? And what is up with the little R on the FSK/HJK regiment? Reservists??? Is there a lower life form than a reservist infantryman???

Here is a picture of these so called Norwegian infantry soldiers! They are a pretty rare bird indeed!

Is there a company that actually makes figures for these guys in any scale? I wouldn't mind having a few in 15mm.

In other news I also just found out, during my search, that Canada actually has an armed warship or two! With like guns and stuff? Who knew?????

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I would have thought ANY army would have SOME infantry …

And as for "mechanized infantry being just tanker wanabees" …

Canada actually has an armed warship or two! With like guns and stuff? Who knew?????

Modern warships have guns???

Modern warships have guns???

Saluting guns?

Yes. Tanker-want-to-be's.

Look at the Bradley:

It looks like a tank and acts like a light tank. It only carries a "fig leaf" squad of 6 too. That's just not real infantry!

And what is their battle cry you ask:

"Death before Dismount!!!"

Not real infantry. Just more light tanks!

I hear that those Canadian ships do carry real guns too! At LEAST one 5" gun too.

I don't get it. Infantry makes perfect sense in a place like Norway. From what I've read, the Norwegians routinely trounce visiting NATO troops in joint exercises, too. Much more fit and determined within their environment.

It looks like a tank and acts like a light tank. It only carries a "fig leaf" squad of 6 too. That's just not real infantry!

I'm surprised you don't recognise an MICV when you see one. And why is a squad of 6 men not real infantry?

I recently watched the series "Occupied" on Netflix. It is about a modern Russian occupation of Norway.

It showed a Norweigan army that was proud, very well-trained, decently equipped, but aware of their limitations. As it was a Norweigan production, I suspect that it was close to the truth.

Great show, BTW.

Foxes sake! What you on tail…………..

Everyone knows you need at least 8 men/women for a squad.

Wonder if the Canadians have ammo for that ship's gun?

MICVs are tanks! It's just a sneaky infantry way, and they are sneaky s, to get their own tanks. It's like the RN's "throughdeck cruisers" and Japanese "helecopter destroyers".

And six man squads? Nah, they're just figleaves!

(you do know that I'm just messing around, don't you Major?)

Well, a Bradley would out-tank just about any other tank that existed in, say 1940-1941…

And it's true. Most modern warships have a gun.

A gun.

Does a phalanx count as a gun too? My jury is still out.

Oh, my error. The regiment I'm talking about is the one above the initials.

MICVs are tanks!

what is the definition of "tank"?

Well according to most journalists anything belonging to an army that has tracks, if it has any sort of gun too it definitely is…

as tgunner states in his post anyone makes these in 15mm and if not what alterations/conversions of other figs ??

They look surprisingly like US infantry to me.

In 15mm scale, even the weapons are close.

Just add bergens, if desired.

Well according to most journalists anything belonging to an army that has tracks

Journalists cannot tell the difference between a tank, an APC, an MICV or an armoured car!

Lol :-))

What a jerk.

Yes, it wouldn't be the first time the media got something wrong …

I was a Mech Cdr [M113], '87-'89 We didn't want to be tankers. We dismounted every time we could ! The best armor on an M113 is the front. That is where the engine is !

An APC/IFV is not a tank ! You try to use an M2 like a tank you'll be probably making a mistake. The TOWs on the M2 are to get them out of trouble … not go looking for it !

And I always thought that having only 6 dismounts out of a 9 man squad was too few. Yes … a mistake ! My Mech Squads had 11, with 9 dismounts. Infantry really does it's best work on the ground. And they can't be always wedded to their carrier. There are a lot of places the "Track" can't go. It's nice to have the firepower though that the M2 or M113 can provide. But it may not be always there. Based on terrain and situation, of course …

Granted three of them are mechanized infantry…

Well 2 are Mech, the 0 with the X … the other 2 are 0 with X and 3 little wheels under that. Which means motorized in wheeled AFVs.

The XM-180 from Finland must be the wheeled AFVs … link

The Mech units have versions of the M113 and a Swedish IFV, CV9030N …link …

@Legion- Yeah, all grunts say that. You know you wanted trigger time in a tank.

@Mako- I was thinking the same thing. I believe Khurasan's line of US moderns would fit the bill. At least for the guys in that picture I posted.

Just a different paint job.

So what would be a good proxy for the XM-180? Those two motorized infantry formations look like likely candidates for them.

Six battalions of one under strength company each

"I hear that those Canadian ships do carry real guns too! At LEAST one 5" gun too."

"Wonder if the Canadians have ammo for that ship's gun?"

One ship carries the "bullets" and one ship carries the gun. When the first ship sinks, the second ship picks up the gun.

Makes sense to keep the number of accidental international incidents down.

Rogue polar bears, grizzly bears, and seals can probably be dealt with using small arms, or pole arms.

Colonel Sir Nils Olav is not amused at your sophomoric humor.

An update: Sir Nils Olav was just promoted to brigadier as of August 22, 2016.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Olav

And a fine brigadier he is!

Didn't they used to be Vikings and norsemen?🤔

Regards
Russ Dunaway

You have it, the Vikings

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@Legion- Yeah, all grunts say that. You know you wanted trigger time in a tank.

Hell ya !

As I just posted on another thread. When GreenLeader posed this question –

"The 70-tonne MBT – I mean, really? What were they thinking – Tank-to-Tank conflict 'never' happens! "

Do you know AFV2AFV combat won't ever happen ? Even Daesh is seen driving MBTs and other AFVs of all types. Many old USSR tech or captured from the Iraqis. You forget the AFVs' original purpose in WWI was to support the Infantry. As a former Grunt both Light and Mech, we liked having MBT support. The MG didn't make humans obsolete in Combat. Neither has the Variety of AT weapons the Infantry has. I know … we spent a lot of time training to kill AFVs. And had a number of man packed AT weapons and vehicle mounted AT weapons. In our TO&Es … Why ? Because the enemy is probably going to have AFVs … of some type.

Many have said the MBT was obsolete before. But actual combat proves that wrong. Many situations in the insurgencies in the Mid East and A'stan. Have demonstrated that even if the enemy has no MBTs. An MBT can clear out a house with direct fire to support the Infantry's assault. As well as in a few cases, an MBT turned it's turret to the rear. And ran over a mud brick structure. And all the Grunts had to do is "clean up".

And as I have said often on other threads … better to have too much firepower or assets and capabilities than not. As a PL and Co. Cdr, my job was to accomplish the mission and save my troops' lives. Why would anyone want to take any firepower away which will make the Cdrs' job any more difficult ? Even in the current various insurgencies we are faced with. Sooner than later a Squad's, Platoon's Company's firepower and it's supporting assets, i.e. AFVs, FA, CAS, Gunships, etc., … is going to be needed to be brought to bear. GreenLeader … what were you leader of again !?!?!

So what would be a good proxy for the XM-180?

Six Wheeled version of the French VAB … link link

And BTW … Pete The Penguin is the Mascot of my alma mater … The Fighting Penguins of YSU ! And I don't know why a NE Ohio university has a penguin as a mascot ?

Vikings with tanks?
Is the world ready for that?????

I'd think those horns on their Helmets would get in the way inside an AFV … [And yes, we all know that is a media addition to Viking history that they all had horns on their helms !]

Still not sure why Elves get the +3….

LOL !!!!

I was stationed in Iceland for one year in 1971 and my whole visual of gigantic blond muscular warriors towering over everyone else went right down the drain!!😆🙄🤔

Regards
Russ Dunaway

Elves are hornier than everyone else?