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Tango0101 Sep 2016 12:57 p.m. PST

Nice!

picture

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From here
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Amicalement
Armand

bc174501 Sep 2016 1:02 p.m. PST

Thought Russian guns had trails of a similar pattern to the French not single trail like the later British guns……

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian01 Sep 2016 1:18 p.m. PST

"Thought Russian guns had trails of a similar pattern to the French not single trail like the later British guns……"

Read the article – I do cover this in the fifth paragraph in the magazine article.

Tony Harwood

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2016 1:29 p.m. PST

Could you provide a link? I am not clear which magazine and which fifth paragraph having visited link suggested above.

Great modelling though. Different for showing wreckage!

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian01 Sep 2016 1:32 p.m. PST

The article appears in the current issue of Wargames Soldiers and Strategy – issue 86, pages 60, 61 and 62.

See this link;
link

Thank you for the comments.

Tony

14Bore01 Sep 2016 2:29 p.m. PST

Still not seeing how British guns got to Borodino but love the model

julianmizzi01 Sep 2016 4:41 p.m. PST

Lovely Diorama .

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2016 7:34 a.m. PST

14bore…..Lend Lease??

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2016 9:45 a.m. PST

I just love the scattering of debris, as I said above.

Pick your collective brains though.

Would you ever see cannonballs lying around waiting to be fired by this era? Looks great, might even have been fired into the redoubt! But, in practice, was all artillery ammo now in prepared format, fixed rounds, with the ball, a sabot and the charge to fire it all pre assembled…and therefore highly dangerous of course?

Still say great modelling

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian02 Sep 2016 10:12 a.m. PST

"Would you ever see cannonballs lying around waiting to be fired by this era? Looks great, might even have been fired into the redoubt! But, in practice, was all artillery ammo now in prepared format, fixed rounds, with the ball, a sabot and the charge to fire it all pre assembled…and therefore highly dangerous of course?"

Good point.

I'll check…..

Tony

Tango0102 Sep 2016 10:34 a.m. PST

Apart from the "historic details"… glad you like it boys!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian02 Sep 2016 10:36 a.m. PST

"Would you ever see cannonballs lying around waiting to be fired by this era? Looks great, might even have been fired into the redoubt! But, in practice, was all artillery ammo now in prepared format, fixed rounds, with the ball, a sabot and the charge to fire it all pre assembled…and therefore highly dangerous of course?"

I think it would be fair to say that there are enough illustrations showing 'bare shot' to make the model authentic, however there are also quite a lot of 'prepared shot' so I would suggest that it could go either way.

Would anyone care to comment?

Tony

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2016 12:06 a.m. PST

Not meant remotely as a criticism….I think the model is very well thought out and the loose shot adds to it.

Genuinely wonder if, on land, outside a major fortification, you would ever see cannon balls lying around waiting to be loaded and fired by the time of the Napoleonic era. Was all ammo by then ready made for instant firing?

Marc the plastics fan04 Sep 2016 12:46 p.m. PST

Not convinced by the guns but i am not going to buy the mag to find out so i will have to live with it. Oh the horror grin

Marc the plastics fan04 Sep 2016 12:48 p.m. PST

Aaah. Alternative Armies make flintloque so are these fantasy canons?

von Winterfeldt07 Sep 2016 3:21 a.m. PST

field artillery ammunition waggons usually carried already made up cartridges – at least for cannon, for howitzers this is different

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian12 Sep 2016 11:12 a.m. PST

"Field artillery ammunition waggons usually carried already made up cartridges – at least for cannon, for howitzers this is different."

Thank you for the information.

Tony

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2016 12:15 p.m. PST

Now that I did not know. So von W is telling us that howitzer rounds did not come attached to their propellants.

That makes perfect sense. Ready use rounds must have been dangerous enough back then, when a charge was attached to a ball of metal. Imagine how dangerous was a round designed to explode, attached to a cylinder designed to do the same thing…in order to get it moving.

OK, can we drag this out in best TMP fashion?

There is not a howitzer here ( actually what was a Russian Unicorn?) but would you see "cannonballs" lying around let's say Bull's battery on "the big day"…(the only one that really mattered, let's face it)

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