nheastvan | 16 Aug 2016 2:14 p.m. PST |
What would you do with a 2x2 ft (60cm) gaming space? Sometimes my large folding tables get lent out to family for seating people for dinners and whatnot, so I'm thinking of what to do with my painting table. What figures, what rules, anything you'd recommend?
I'm open to a lot of periods, but have been thinking about later 19th century, WW1 and scifi. I can be convinced of another option if there's a particularly good line of miniatures or terrain or something. I'm also open to adapting more board game like rules. |
Allen57 | 16 Aug 2016 2:22 p.m. PST |
KR16 SF skirmish rules from Angel Barracks (free). DBA in all its variations. Square Bashing from Peter Pig (done in 6mm). |
MajorB | 16 Aug 2016 2:22 p.m. PST |
Lots of games will work in that space. DBA, HOTT, Saga, Ambush Alley, Tomorrow's War, Battle Cry, Memoir '44, C&C Ancients, Airfix Battles, Crossfire … any small skirmish game. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 16 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST |
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elsyrsyn | 16 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST |
DBA, Song of Blades and Heroes (in 15mm, perhaps), lots of things in 6mm. Doug |
Nick Bowler | 16 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST |
Saga in 15mm with all ranges halved. |
vexillia | 16 Aug 2016 2:29 p.m. PST |
Try Conflict at the World's End – link
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Lion in the Stars | 16 Aug 2016 2:32 p.m. PST |
Ambush Alley/Tomorrow's War is actually written for 2x2 tables in a lot of cases! This Quar's War will work in 2x2 or 2x3 tables in 15mm, but you'd need to halve ranges. |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 16 Aug 2016 2:48 p.m. PST |
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vtsaogames | 16 Aug 2016 2:50 p.m. PST |
One Hour Wargames are designed for 3 X 3 table. Just shrink all 6" measures to 4 " and off you go. |
Dynaman8789 | 16 Aug 2016 2:50 p.m. PST |
Almost any rules written for inches, change it to centimeters and 1/285 miniatures and you now have an effective 5' by 5' table. |
Weasel | 16 Aug 2016 2:51 p.m. PST |
Almost everything I write is aimed at a 2 foot table as a start. |
Dave Crowell | 16 Aug 2016 3:18 p.m. PST |
Mighty Armies, Irregular Wars, Song of …, and Two Hour Wargames in 15mm all play well in 2x2. cm instead of inches and smaller minis is also a great way of gaining the effect of a larger table. |
nheastvan | 16 Aug 2016 3:29 p.m. PST |
Okay, so no end to the rules options. Turns out I actually have a bunch of those suggested. I'm going to search for eye candy for terrain and figures and whatnot, but I'm currently leaning towards some KR16 with 15mm sci-fi --perhaps with some mad tweaking :D. I already have a bunch of Rebel & Khurasan in both painted and unpainted. While 19th century stuff would be cool, I already do that in 54mm and just sort of forgot an earlier resolution not to double up on scales in the same period. My bad :D Conflict at the World's End sounds very cool, but it's not really an era I'm super interested in. 3mm still tempts me though. As does GHQ's micro armor. The wheels on my friend's APCs have lug nuts. At 1/285! I think I just need to keep reminding myself that the 15mm sci-fi is already here waiting for me to finish it. No waiting for stuff in the mail or seeing what a nearby store might have. I can just start. |
robert piepenbrink | 16 Aug 2016 3:44 p.m. PST |
Just to toss something else in the mix: try a 1" hex mat and Ogre in 5/6mm. Lots of possibilities. |
Extra Crispy | 16 Aug 2016 4:05 p.m. PST |
Make a "Battlefield In A Box" and use centimeters: link |
45thdiv | 16 Aug 2016 4:58 p.m. PST |
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Cardinal Ximenez | 16 Aug 2016 5:05 p.m. PST |
Songs of Drums and Tomahawks in 25mm |
DJCoaltrain | 16 Aug 2016 5:09 p.m. PST |
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whitphoto | 16 Aug 2016 5:22 p.m. PST |
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shelldrake | 16 Aug 2016 5:47 p.m. PST |
15mm using one of the Two Hour Wargame rules. |
nheastvan | 16 Aug 2016 6:12 p.m. PST |
Wild west shoot out? … Songs of Drums and Tomahawks in 25mm … 15mm using one of the Two Hour Wargame rules. I do late 19th century in 54mm so I'm going to do something like this in the space but with 54mm. I'm sure I'll try all sorts of rules. It's later than FIW and bigger than 15mm and 25mm, but I think I'll be able to make it work with my existing terrain and painted figures. OGRE in 3mm… I got the pocket edition and could totally make a hex board and find appropriate miniatures. There are just too many great ideas. Loads of 15mm, 10mm and 6mm stuff would work great as the basis for 3mm OGRE. I think there are threads about that for me to find. :D Make a "Battlefield In A Box" and use centimeters: link
Why hello there.
That's a really great idea. |
Weasel | 16 Aug 2016 8:55 p.m. PST |
in 15mm you can fit a pair of infantry platoons if the game starts "in contact" |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 16 Aug 2016 9:11 p.m. PST |
boarding actions come to mind. |
Sundance | 16 Aug 2016 9:25 p.m. PST |
My 10 y.o. and I do 15mm sci fi on a board not much bigger than that with our own simple home grown rules. |
mashrewba | 17 Aug 2016 2:01 a.m. PST |
You could put a 3ft square board on top. |
Stealth1000 | 17 Aug 2016 4:13 a.m. PST |
15mm infinity. 28mm Occult Wars. |
daler240D | 17 Aug 2016 6:13 a.m. PST |
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donlowry | 17 Aug 2016 8:15 a.m. PST |
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Norman D Landings | 17 Aug 2016 9:33 a.m. PST |
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Murvihill | 17 Aug 2016 11:12 a.m. PST |
Tank on tank at 1/35th scale. Short game though… |
normsmith | 17 Aug 2016 12:28 p.m. PST |
I think Ospey's Black Op's with a lot of terrain might have some mileage. |
nheastvan | 17 Aug 2016 1:21 p.m. PST |
I made some progress. I decided to use the table's full width, so it's 29.5"/75cm. I started with some cork hills. I decided to try those corner and edge types that you can put together if you want to:
I'm going to paint them so they look like the drop cloth like I did for these:
That's the same drop cloth. |
Skeptic | 17 Aug 2016 8:10 p.m. PST |
28mm or even 15mm Pulp Alley? |
Maxshadow | 17 Aug 2016 10:18 p.m. PST |
Hey nheastvan that looks great. I can see lots of fun game potential there! |
Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy | 18 Aug 2016 7:13 a.m. PST |
2x2 or 3x3 is the best table to game on. IMHO, larger tables, unless playing games with large numbers of figures, wastes time as it takes 3-4 turns of movement just to get into action. |
rhacelt | 18 Aug 2016 9:30 a.m. PST |
The Sword and the Flame in 15mm. just cut all the distances in half. |
tsofian | 18 Aug 2016 4:02 p.m. PST |
WW2 Micro armor in heavily urbanized terrain Trench warfare in almost any scale 1/6000 scale ships (smaller than battelships or on a foggy day |
nheastvan | 18 Aug 2016 4:10 p.m. PST |
More progress has been made:
The hills were painted black and drybrushed up through 4 colours. Then they were glazed back down in the recesses as well as some green glazing to break things up a bit. I decided not to match the drop cloth as I wanted the elevation change to stand out more. My little 15mm guys need to be rebased to match this new brown table. The MRAP is a Matchbox repaint. |
richkurtin | 20 Aug 2016 11:52 a.m. PST |
Open Combat ( Secondthunder.com ) is designed for a 2 x 2 table. And looks to be a fun game. DBA, HOTTS, SOBH in ( any of those in 20/15mm ) should be fine too. |
nheastvan | 21 Aug 2016 5:44 a.m. PST |
I actually have Open Combat. I don't know why I didn't think of it. I ended up making more terrain:
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War Monkey | 21 Aug 2016 7:19 a.m. PST |
That's turning out to be a real nice gaming table, nice work. |
uglyfatbloke | 22 Aug 2016 7:26 a.m. PST |
Cover the table with stuff to really break up line of sight and use Bolt Action or anything else you fancy. |
Moe the Great | 22 Aug 2016 8:37 a.m. PST |
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TheBeast | 23 Aug 2016 6:36 a.m. PST |
Well done! You've made four square feet look immense. I think I would have gone with a corridor crawl, Space Hulk, Aliens the board game, Descent, scaled down to 15mm. Plenty of various maps for download, and I think I still have the old Hulk files, easily printed at 60%. AND, easily mated with the Battlefield in a Box concept. Doug |
nheastvan | 23 Aug 2016 8:54 a.m. PST |
A corridor crawl would be cool. It might be a natural fit with my 15mm sci-fi. I've been watching a lot of youtube videos about making dungeon tiles and I think a sci-fi version would be really doable-- especially in 15mm. I've been doing a lot of 54mm and 28mm lately and it's amazing what fits when you go down to 15mm. Buildings become just a few inches across. A ridge tall enough to block LOS is less than an inch. It's great. I ended up expanding my scatter terrain rock piles:
And made some space boils that have infected the planet.
When I first started this thread, I was strongly considering 19th century, ACW and up to WW1. While those didn't win out in the end, I can see the appeal of doing 3mm for ACW. I've always thought 3mm O8 looked amazing:
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LORDGHEE | 25 Aug 2016 8:21 a.m. PST |
I really like you hill that can come apart into four sides. where can I get 3mm who makes them ? |
nheastvan | 08 Sep 2016 12:09 a.m. PST |
Sorry, didn't see the post. Pico Armor and Magister Militum both sell 3mm. The ones in that picture are by 08 and sold through Pico Armor (and maybe other places I don't know about). picoarmor.com |
Old Contemptibles | 08 Sep 2016 9:47 a.m. PST |
Put it by my 6 x 12ft gaming table and use it to place drinks, rules, charts and dice on. |
nheastvan | 08 Sep 2016 10:16 p.m. PST |
That's actually what I use the table for when I have my two folding tables set up. And for painting miniatures. But, as I wrote in the original post, the folding tables get lent out for family functions and occasionally don't make it back to me in time for game night. While I considered getting back up tables, it seemed like a waste of money and storage space for how rarely they would be used. Now I have an awesome small game set up as well. 30 inches for 15mm is like 5 feet for 28mm.
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