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nheastvan Inactive Member16 Aug 2016 2:14 p.m. PST

What would you do with a 2x2 ft (60cm) gaming space? Sometimes my large folding tables get lent out to family for seating people for dinners and whatnot, so I'm thinking of what to do with my painting table. What figures, what rules, anything you'd recommend?

I'm open to a lot of periods, but have been thinking about later 19th century, WW1 and scifi. I can be convinced of another option if there's a particularly good line of miniatures or terrain or something. I'm also open to adapting more board game like rules.

Allen5716 Aug 2016 2:22 p.m. PST

KR16 SF skirmish rules from Angel Barracks (free).
DBA in all its variations.
Square Bashing from Peter Pig (done in 6mm).

MajorB16 Aug 2016 2:22 p.m. PST

Lots of games will work in that space. DBA, HOTT, Saga, Ambush Alley, Tomorrow's War, Battle Cry, Memoir '44, C&C Ancients, Airfix Battles, Crossfire … any small skirmish game.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST

Mighty Armies in 15mm

Personal logo elsyrsyn Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST

DBA, Song of Blades and Heroes (in 15mm, perhaps), lots of things in 6mm.


Nick Bowler16 Aug 2016 2:24 p.m. PST

Saga in 15mm with all ranges halved.

vexillia Inactive Member16 Aug 2016 2:29 p.m. PST

Try Conflict at the World's End link


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Lion in the Stars16 Aug 2016 2:32 p.m. PST

Ambush Alley/Tomorrow's War is actually written for 2x2 tables in a lot of cases!

This Quar's War will work in 2x2 or 2x3 tables in 15mm, but you'd need to halve ranges.

RavenscraftCybernetics Inactive Member16 Aug 2016 2:48 p.m. PST

Hoards of the Things!

vtsaogames16 Aug 2016 2:50 p.m. PST

One Hour Wargames are designed for 3 X 3 table. Just shrink all 6" measures to 4 " and off you go.

Dynaman878916 Aug 2016 2:50 p.m. PST

Almost any rules written for inches, change it to centimeters and 1/285 miniatures and you now have an effective 5' by 5' table.

Personal logo Weasel Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 2:51 p.m. PST

Almost everything I write is aimed at a 2 foot table as a start.

Dave Crowell16 Aug 2016 3:18 p.m. PST

Mighty Armies, Irregular Wars, Song of …, and Two Hour Wargames in 15mm all play well in 2x2.

cm instead of inches and smaller minis is also a great way of gaining the effect of a larger table.

nheastvan Inactive Member16 Aug 2016 3:29 p.m. PST

Okay, so no end to the rules options. Turns out I actually have a bunch of those suggested.

I'm going to search for eye candy for terrain and figures and whatnot, but I'm currently leaning towards some KR16 with 15mm sci-fi --perhaps with some mad tweaking :D. I already have a bunch of Rebel & Khurasan in both painted and unpainted. While 19th century stuff would be cool, I already do that in 54mm and just sort of forgot an earlier resolution not to double up on scales in the same period. My bad :D

Conflict at the World's End sounds very cool, but it's not really an era I'm super interested in.

3mm still tempts me though. As does GHQ's micro armor. The wheels on my friend's APCs have lug nuts. At 1/285!

I think I just need to keep reminding myself that the 15mm sci-fi is already here waiting for me to finish it. No waiting for stuff in the mail or seeing what a nearby store might have. I can just start.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 3:44 p.m. PST

Just to toss something else in the mix: try a 1" hex mat and Ogre in 5/6mm. Lots of possibilities.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 4:05 p.m. PST

Make a "Battlefield In A Box" and use centimeters:


45thdiv16 Aug 2016 4:58 p.m. PST

Wild west shoot out?

Don Manser16 Aug 2016 5:05 p.m. PST

Songs of Drums and Tomahawks in 25mm

DJCoaltrain16 Aug 2016 5:09 p.m. PST

Western Shootout.

whitphoto Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 5:22 p.m. PST

OGRE in 3mm…

shelldrake16 Aug 2016 5:47 p.m. PST

15mm using one of the Two Hour Wargame rules.

nheastvan Inactive Member16 Aug 2016 6:12 p.m. PST

Wild west shoot out?

Songs of Drums and Tomahawks in 25mm

15mm using one of the Two Hour Wargame rules.

I do late 19th century in 54mm so I'm going to do something like this in the space but with 54mm. I'm sure I'll try all sorts of rules. It's later than FIW and bigger than 15mm and 25mm, but I think I'll be able to make it work with my existing terrain and painted figures.

OGRE in 3mm…

I got the pocket edition and could totally make a hex board and find appropriate miniatures. There are just too many great ideas. Loads of 15mm, 10mm and 6mm stuff would work great as the basis for 3mm OGRE. I think there are threads about that for me to find. :D

Make a "Battlefield In A Box" and use centimeters:


Why hello there.

That's a really great idea.

Personal logo Weasel Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 8:55 p.m. PST

in 15mm you can fit a pair of infantry platoons if the game starts "in contact"

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2016 9:11 p.m. PST

boarding actions come to mind.

Sundance16 Aug 2016 9:25 p.m. PST

My 10 y.o. and I do 15mm sci fi on a board not much bigger than that with our own simple home grown rules.

mashrewba Inactive Member17 Aug 2016 2:01 a.m. PST

You could put a 3ft square board on top.

Stealth100017 Aug 2016 4:13 a.m. PST

15mm infinity. 28mm Occult Wars.

daler240D Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2016 6:13 a.m. PST

2 x 2 Napoleonics would be perfect for this

donlowry17 Aug 2016 8:15 a.m. PST

Play board games.

Norman D Landings Inactive Member17 Aug 2016 9:33 a.m. PST


Murvihill17 Aug 2016 11:12 a.m. PST

Tank on tank at 1/35th scale. Short game though…

normsmith Inactive Member17 Aug 2016 12:28 p.m. PST

I think Ospey's Black Op's with a lot of terrain might have some mileage.

nheastvan Inactive Member17 Aug 2016 1:21 p.m. PST

I made some progress. I decided to use the table's full width, so it's 29.5"/75cm. I started with some cork hills. I decided to try those corner and edge types that you can put together if you want to:

I'm going to paint them so they look like the drop cloth like I did for these:

That's the same drop cloth.

Skeptic17 Aug 2016 8:10 p.m. PST

28mm or even 15mm Pulp Alley?

Maxshadow17 Aug 2016 10:18 p.m. PST

Hey nheastvan that looks great. I can see lots of fun game potential there!

Personal logo Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2016 7:13 a.m. PST

2x2 or 3x3 is the best table to game on. IMHO, larger tables, unless playing games with large numbers of figures, wastes time as it takes 3-4 turns of movement just to get into action.

rhacelt18 Aug 2016 9:30 a.m. PST

The Sword and the Flame in 15mm. just cut all the distances in half.

tsofian Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2016 4:02 p.m. PST

WW2 Micro armor in heavily urbanized terrain

Trench warfare in almost any scale

1/6000 scale ships (smaller than battelships or on a foggy day

nheastvan Inactive Member18 Aug 2016 4:10 p.m. PST

More progress has been made:

The hills were painted black and drybrushed up through 4 colours. Then they were glazed back down in the recesses as well as some green glazing to break things up a bit. I decided not to match the drop cloth as I wanted the elevation change to stand out more.

My little 15mm guys need to be rebased to match this new brown table. The MRAP is a Matchbox repaint.

richkurtin Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2016 11:52 a.m. PST

Open Combat ( is designed for a 2 x 2 table. And looks to be a fun game.

DBA, HOTTS, SOBH in (any of those in 20/15mm) should be fine too.

nheastvan Inactive Member21 Aug 2016 5:44 a.m. PST

I actually have Open Combat. I don't know why I didn't think of it.

I ended up making more terrain:


War Monkey21 Aug 2016 7:19 a.m. PST

That's turning out to be a real nice gaming table, nice work.

uglyfatbloke Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2016 7:26 a.m. PST

Cover the table with stuff to really break up line of sight and use Bolt Action or anything else you fancy.

Personal logo Moe the Great Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2016 8:37 a.m. PST

Looking good.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP23 Aug 2016 6:36 a.m. PST

Well done! You've made four square feet look immense.

I think I would have gone with a corridor crawl, Space Hulk, Aliens the board game, Descent, scaled down to 15mm. Plenty of various maps for download, and I think I still have the old Hulk files, easily printed at 60%.

AND, easily mated with the Battlefield in a Box concept.


nheastvan Inactive Member23 Aug 2016 8:54 a.m. PST

A corridor crawl would be cool. It might be a natural fit with my 15mm sci-fi. I've been watching a lot of youtube videos about making dungeon tiles and I think a sci-fi version would be really doable-- especially in 15mm.

I've been doing a lot of 54mm and 28mm lately and it's amazing what fits when you go down to 15mm. Buildings become just a few inches across. A ridge tall enough to block LOS is less than an inch. It's great.

I ended up expanding my scatter terrain rock piles:


And made some space boils that have infected the planet.


When I first started this thread, I was strongly considering 19th century, ACW and up to WW1. While those didn't win out in the end, I can see the appeal of doing 3mm for ACW. I've always thought 3mm O8 looked amazing:

LORDGHEE25 Aug 2016 8:21 a.m. PST

I really like you hill that can come apart into four sides.

where can I get 3mm who makes them


nheastvan Inactive Member08 Sep 2016 12:09 a.m. PST

Sorry, didn't see the post. Pico Armor and Magister Militum both sell 3mm. The ones in that picture are by 08 and sold through Pico Armor (and maybe other places I don't know about).

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2016 9:47 a.m. PST

Put it by my 6 x 12ft gaming table and use it to place drinks, rules, charts and dice on.

nheastvan Inactive Member08 Sep 2016 10:16 p.m. PST

That's actually what I use the table for when I have my two folding tables set up. And for painting miniatures. But, as I wrote in the original post, the folding tables get lent out for family functions and occasionally don't make it back to me in time for game night. While I considered getting back up tables, it seemed like a waste of money and storage space for how rarely they would be used.

Now I have an awesome small game set up as well. 30 inches for 15mm is like 5 feet for 28mm.

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