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Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2016 1:24 a.m. PST

It has been asked if a 1/72 SYW game is possible, given existing ranges in plastic & metal.
The Battle of Hamelin.
You be the judge:

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The town of Hamelin, situated on a crossroads, is held by the French…..but not if Frederick's Prussians have anything to say about it

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A nearby fortress is held by their Austrian allies, ordered to hold & not sally to help their French friends

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Prussian artillery unlimbers

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Prussian cavalry & infantry shake out to battle order

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The French, in prepared positions, await

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The town is held by two dismounted dragoon regiments

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The Prussians demonstrate on the French right

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Seeing the danger, the French rush troops to the town

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Too late, a crushing offensive begins to advance up the hill on the French left

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The French, outnumbered & outmanoeuvred, await their doom

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And how it was all done

Tarleton14 Aug 2016 1:32 a.m. PST

Very impressive.

What figures did you use?

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2016 1:39 a.m. PST

HaT for Prussian infantry, dragoons.
for Austrian dragoons
Zvesda for Prussian Guard infantry, hussars,
for French cavalry & dragoons
Revell for Austrian hussars, infantry, artillery
for French artillery
IMEX for Prussian artillery
for some French light infantry
Esci for Prussian light infantry
Airfix for Austrian hussars
Wodenfeld & other metals for French light & line infantry

Sundry other figures, both metal & plastic for oddments (eg Hinton Hunt provided an Austrian general).

Quite a few conversions. One of the great assets to conversion are the HaT SYW Prussian MAC infantry sets with lots & lots of spare tricornes & mitre hats.

Was it all 100% historically accurate? No but close enough IMO.

jambo114 Aug 2016 2:17 a.m. PST

I think you have proved that you can do it in 1/72. Lovely looking figures and a great table. Well done to all on this project.

Tarleton14 Aug 2016 4:08 a.m. PST

Wow, a real mixture then.

Well worth the efforts of all involved. It looks really great.

R Dean14 Aug 2016 4:44 a.m. PST

That's beautiful!

Hal Thinglum Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2016 5:20 a.m. PST

Nice work! Terrain and figures look great.

skinkmasterreturns14 Aug 2016 5:34 a.m. PST

No wonder those Hat Prussians sold out so fast. You bought them all! Excellent looking game!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2016 6:13 a.m. PST

Very nicely done. Congratulations.

Who asked this joker14 Aug 2016 7:21 a.m. PST

Nicely done!

davbenbak14 Aug 2016 8:03 a.m. PST

Great job!!! I was able to get my hands a quite a few of the Revell Austrians but none of the Hat Prussians or Zvezda sets so I moved on to another project. I remember when you started working on yours and I'm glad you were able to see it fruition. What rule set did you settle on?

Dschebe14 Aug 2016 9:15 a.m. PST

Very nice terrain and figures. Great game. Congratulations.

Rod MacArthur14 Aug 2016 10:33 a.m. PST

davbenbak,

Do you still have any sets of Revell Austrians, infantry, cavalry and artillery? I would be happy to make you an offer for them.

Rod

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2016 1:16 p.m. PST

Dave:

"A Glorious War". Home-groan.

Retiarius914 Aug 2016 5:04 p.m. PST

they look great

Guy Barlow15 Aug 2016 7:52 a.m. PST

I did the Austrians v Prussians mainly using the Revell sets and I might have some spare boxes of the Austrian artillery and some Prussian infantry sprues if you are interested.

Guy

HidaSeku15 Aug 2016 10:49 a.m. PST

Wow! Very impressive!

Pauls Bods15 Aug 2016 11:39 a.m. PST

Brilliant! Nice Little touches like the dragoon΄s horses with thier heads down drinking (or eating)

Marc the plastics fan15 Aug 2016 11:51 a.m. PST

Do I see some Zvezda GNW stuff in there?

Really great and makes me think I need to return to my Imagi project

Excellent photos of an excellent game

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2016 5:32 p.m. PST

Thanks everyone. I've directed this thread to my two pals as this project (as all of our show games) was a team effort.

Musketier17 Aug 2016 11:05 a.m. PST

@ Rod MacArthur
As it happens, I have a fair stash of Revell Austrians of all arms, some 20 boxes – a project that seemed like a good idea at the time, but which I've been hemming and hawing about for quite a while now. Please contact me if you're interested in the whole lot.
armchairgeneral AT hotmail DOT com

PaulRPetri18 Aug 2016 6:39 p.m. PST

WOW What a great project! I have switched all of my gaming projects to plastic 1/72 for the remainder of my wargaming life.
Musketier if Rod doesnt want the 20 boxes of Revell Austrians I would be interested in them.
Thanks
Paul

Marc at work19 Aug 2016 9:17 a.m. PST

Always a sensible decision Paul…

Love the 1/72

Rod MacArthur22 Aug 2016 10:48 a.m. PST

Musketier,

I have sent you an e-mail asking if you would split your unwanted Austrians between me and Paul. I only need 1 Artillery, 2 Dragoons and 6 Infantry.

Posting this here so that Paul knows.

Best wishes

Rod

Rod MacArthur24 Aug 2016 7:14 a.m. PST

Just posting a thanks to Musketier and Paul for their kind compromise which enabled me and Paul to share the Revell Austrian figures.

Rod

PaulRPetri26 Aug 2016 5:57 p.m. PST

No problem Rod glad it worked out.

Paul

Musketier27 Aug 2016 10:52 a.m. PST

Thank you both, Gentlemen – glad it was all settled in the best "Lace Wars" spirit! And apologies to Ochoin for 'advertising' on his thread. It was a spontaneous move, as I had not made up my mind to sell until I saw Rod's expression of interest here. Meanwhile, you display looks terrific, Sir! If I had to start again…
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Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2016 3:03 p.m. PST

@ Musketier

No apologies necessary. As you say, the "Lace Wars" camaraderie.

Rod MacArthur28 Aug 2016 11:54 a.m. PST

Meanwhile, back to the original posting. I spent a total of five years living in Hamelin (Hameln in German) whilst serving in the British Army. The old centre of the town looks medieval, although some of that is an 18th/19th Century reconstruction. It was originally a walled city, guarding the bridge over the River Weser. The old wall has now gone, but there is a modern ring road exactly following its original line (you can see it very clearly on Google maps). The Weser is about 100 meters wide in that area. I was Royal Engineers and we used to build bridges over it frequently.

The Battle of Hastenbeck took place just to the south of Hameln, which looks similar to the scenario above.

Rod

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2016 1:30 p.m. PST

You're too sharp, Rod.

That's exactly what we did: a simplified terrain from the Battle of Hastenbeck, with our own forces & different objectives. So not quite an historical re-fight & not quite a made-up battle.

Rod MacArthur28 Aug 2016 1:53 p.m. PST

I know Hastenbeck as well. Some of our soldiers' married quarters were there. The first time we were based in Hameln in the late 60s we lived in a German farmhouse in the little village of Posteholz across the Weser to the west of the town. The second time, in the mid-80s we lived on a hill on the eastern side of the town.

Interestingly there was a Roman battle (Idistaviso) where Germanicus beat Armenius close to Hastenbeck as well, probably near the natural amphitheatre slightly further south on a bend of the Weser.

Rod

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