"Battlegroup Kursk Rules - What do I need?" Topic

So I'm thinking of downloading the PDF of the rules and am on the Plastic Soldier Company website.

There's so much stuff there I'm not sure what I need?

This is the correct ruleset, yes?
link

Do I need the data set cards and /or the Campaign Supplement? What do these add?

I'm looking at eastern front gaming currently

many thanks

You'll need the rules you've linked to and either the barbarossa or kursk campaign pdfs for either of those periods or fall of the reich for the push to berlin, these add the "armylists" and scenarios. The cards aren't necessary but are very useful (mine arrived a couple of days ago) as they remove the need to flick backwards and forwards in the books (or on your tablet). I prefer hard copies so the cards reduce the need for having the big books cluttering up the gaming table.

Check out this PDF link for an introduction to the ruleset.

It's a great system, have fun

BALM

Thankyou, have ordered the rules and the Kursk campaign supplement

Also whilst the cards are useful they are not pre-cut (as I'd imagined when I bought them) and they'll need some care and a scalpel to get them ready.

I second the purchase of the cards. Speeds up the game. They are not cut, but it is worth going to a craft stoe and picking up a picture cutter. It can handle the size of the cards and the edges are perfect. I would have not gotten a straight line without it. If in the USA, Michael's carries them and with the 50% off coupon the price is right.

45thdiv I was wondering what the best option was. I had considered taking them to staples (blighty based) to see if they could do it but I will investigate your method first, thanks

BALM

thanks guys, will prob get the cards in the week

BALM,

Look in the scrapbook section. It is simular to an old paper cutter, but instead of a drop/pull down cutting blade, it is a slide razor blade that you pull or push. Makes a nice cut and you can measure the cuts so the cards should come out very close to the same size.

Also, to store the cards I use those plastic, clear boxes they sell for collectible cards games to hold battle decks. I think they are made by Ultra Pro. I use them now for all games the have cards. Board games especially so they cards can be sorted. The smallest case will hold about 50 to 60 cards.

Matthew

Ridiculous that the consumer is expected to pay for professionally-produced reference cards, and then cut and trim them themselves. It's 2016, not 1986.

Well that ridiculousness is so that instead of charging £15.00 GBP-20 per set of cards, we can charge £5.00 GBP or under for each set by not having them pre-cut. The Late War German set is 120 data cards, equivalent to two standard playing card decks.

Might be 'ridiculous' to you, but given the small numbers we print, precut costings put them way out of the price range we considered people would want to pay for them.

For products without a high enough volume to print inexpensively, there's always print on demand.

Can we just buy a PDF of the cards for a lesser price? It would be infinitely cheaper to have them printed by an online professional printing company or a photographic printing company than deal with the rigmarole of having to perform the other half of the task the publisher neglected to do.

"Cut to fit into useful tabletop playing aids"

Is that an imperative rather than descriptive sentence?

Selling PDFs would also make the product more accessible to overseas customers.

Doug and Manchu, PDFs would be very convenient. Also, with a PDF folks could edit the cards to include vehicles that haven't been officially statted up. For example the Maus, which I have a model of, but which was deemed by Ironfist to be too fantastical to bother to put into the Fall of the Reich supplement.

Too fantastical?

No… we didn't put it in as it didn't see action. :)

I've asked about PDF versions of the cards, but that decision is above my pay grade… I just write and do pretty pictures. ;)

PDFs of the books come out once hard copies are sold out.

For products without a high enough volume to print inexpensively, there's always print on demand.

You obviously haven't priced P-o-D books.

$5.99 USD paperback new is $21.99 USD Print-on-demand!

It never fails-- no matter what you do or how you do it some wag will come on and complain vociferously about it. You can never win!

well I ordered the PDFs on Saturday. It's now Tuesday night and no sign of them.

It's a shame PSC don't use the technology for instant download once you've paid. I can do that on my Photography website and I only sell a few hundred quid's worth a year.

Id email them as they have been at Gen Con and they email out the PDFs.

Emailed, it seems they did email but I never received them, asked them to email them again, they did but sent the wrong ones, so still waiting.

On a good note, I received the data cards today and have laminated and cut them up