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Queen Catherine05 Aug 2016 5:29 a.m. PST

trying to decide on a scale to do some contemporary gaming. I'm leaning heavily towards 6mm since that has the best selection of vehicles thru GHQ et al, but it's getting pretty hard for me to see things that small [anything that small] so I'm leaning a bit towards 10mm but far as I know only the cold war is available at that scale from Minifigs I think.

Also, buildings in which infantry can fight, paper or otherwise, are of interest.

I want to game on a 3x4 table in my home office, and have options to game several rule sets, 5Core, Sabre Squadron, etc. Leaning towards 5Core for flexibility across several levels of play. Cold war is sort of interesting [grew up with it] but more interested in contemporary and near-future conflicts, perhaps Ukraine, Eastern Europe, or Middle East.

Thanks for thoughts.

nickinsomerset05 Aug 2016 6:25 a.m. PST

The new H&R 6mm infantry are superb, if you are on facebook have a look at the 6mm wargames site, exact name eludes me! The best buildings are Timecast but they are solid.

Tally Ho!

BattlerBritain05 Aug 2016 6:43 a.m. PST

The GHQ modern infantry tend to be very large compared to other 6mm manufacturers, sometimes looking bigger than the GHQ vehicles when next to them.

Some would even say GHQ ultra-modern infantry are just about 10mm anyway.

They are certainly detailed.

Have a look at the GHQ forum and discussions there on the size of GHQs latest infantry packs.

Vigilant05 Aug 2016 6:44 a.m. PST

Check out Pendraken for early cold war in 10mm. Some of the vehicles will still work today and their range is growing.

boy wundyr x Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2016 6:57 a.m. PST

Gamecraft has matboard and acrylic buildings that can let you put together a city pretty quickly, specially the bigger buildings.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2016 8:36 a.m. PST

Yea, the GHQ infantry are about 1/220t scale, last time I checked.

Minifigs and Pendraken both have nice infantry sculpts.

I've got both 1/285th and 1/144th vehicles and troops, and of late have been working on acquiring forces for the larger scale. You can get prepainted plastic vehicles for the Cold War in 1/144th scale, and even a small selection of troops.

I see them as 12mm, but in the UK 10mm is supposedly 1/150th scale, so its pretty close.

Dynaman878905 Aug 2016 8:43 a.m. PST

The GHQ ultra-moderns are nicely sculpted and detailed, too many in the port-arms pose for my taste (I want them shooting!). I agree with all the comments above and can add in a couple freely available paper building links.

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Go back and forth a couple pages on this link to find all the buildings and road tiles.

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For the infantry, I mark my bases to tell them apart.
No mark – regular Assault Rifle.
Black Dot – Grenade Launcher.
2 Black Dot – SMG

etc…

Personal logo Buckeye AKA Darryl Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2016 8:49 a.m. PST

TimeCast has both 6mm and 10mm buildings but I think they are solid.

timecastmodels.co.uk

GameCraft are hollow, depending on the material chosen.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2016 9:13 a.m. PST

Forgot to add, I'd go with H&R infantry for 6mm scale vehicles, if you want them to match the size of the armor.

Visceral Impact Studios Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2016 11:27 a.m. PST

Another vote for GHQ.

I have a few quibbles with some holes in their product line but they're the most complete of any company out there.

cwlinsj Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member05 Aug 2016 11:48 a.m. PST

Personally, I like for figures to be a little bigger. Makes them easier to paint and they mount better on a base, I suspect they are a little sturdier for handling as well. And since they're representative of a squad/unit anyways, exact scale representation vs vehicles isn't that important.

Rod I Robertson Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2016 11:55 a.m. PST

Queen Catherine:

First welcome to modern gaming and I hope you find it entertaining and rewarding. It will certainly be bloody and destructive!

At what level of forces do you wish to game? If it is fireteam or squad level then 10mm/12mm or even 15mm might work well for you. If larger formations are to be used then 10/12mm and 6mm are better suited and if you mean to game large battles on your 3X4 table then you might consider 3mm minis; diminishing visual acuity notwithstanding.

As to rules, check out Skirmish Sangin and No End In Sight for team or squad level actions, Force on Force by Ambush Alley for squad to platoon level actions, the upcoming Too Fat Lardies modern version of IABSM for company/combat-team battles and for battalion level and up A Fist Full of Tows 3 for larger battles. The 5Core family of rules are also very good and quick to play so if you want a fast battle these may be your best bet.

I hope you enjoy your foray into this genre and best wishes for a rewarding experience!

Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

williamb05 Aug 2016 9:01 p.m. PST

paperterrain.com offer 6mm and 10mm buildings for various theaters.

Queen Catherine06 Aug 2016 7:38 p.m. PST

I am strongly leaning towards platoon actions. So perhaps a base or bases with 3 vehicles or several figs in realistic settings, with the player as the company commander and the platoon leaders actions diced off. Perhaps reinforcing the company to push it towards a battalion occasionally.

Rod I Robertson Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2016 8:45 p.m. PST

Queen Catherine:

The way you describe things, the 5Core rules sound about right for your purposes. Given the size of the table you have at your disposal 10/12mm sounds like your best bet. Minifigs, Pendraken and Aotrs Shipyard are first stops for figures and vehicles.

Here is a slightly dated but nonetheless comprehensive list of all things 10/12mm:

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For buildings check out Gamecraft Miniatures. They also carry 6mm stuff should you decide to go that way.

Please keep us posted on your progress and enjoy!

Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

UshCha Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2016 11:17 a.m. PST

There are quite a few modern 1/144 (10/12mm) on Shapeways , Google AOTRS SHIPYARDS and look for Maneouver Group moderns for cold war stuff. Fits with both Minifigs and the plastic pre painted stuff. I have lots of all of them. There are a few 1/144 fold flat buildings on Wargames Vault under Maneouver Group. You buy the images and print them yourself. These are gamers buildings not models. However in significant numbers, say ten or more they are good as the detail is lost anyway. If you are playing at platoon leavel you probably want to make temporary village bases as at this scale if you don't get then back exactly you can change sight lines significantly.

Queen Catherine08 Aug 2016 6:21 a.m. PST

I've been considering the space limitations and scale distortion, and I'm going to go with 1/300-ish. The GHQ infantry look good and are pretty cheap.

At 1/300, a yard square table space is 300x300y. At only 1:2 it is 600y. A 1" building is 25' long. The little Bleeped texts'll be a bit hard to see, but I can always up my reading glasses number, too.

The only thing I don't like is that GHQ vehicles must be bought in batches of 5 – I want lots of variety and just 1-2 of most vehicles to represent the haphazard nature of infantry support options in Iraq and A-stan. Shame, since their vehicles are lovely.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

Queen Catherine08 Aug 2016 7:29 a.m. PST

On another note, the Gamecraft mat board looks pretty good, but there's very little variety and the buildings are mostly big ones. I'd like a cheap afghan village , not a cheap majestic hotel.

UshCha Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2016 12:42 p.m. PST

I will declare my bias. I dislike GHQ intensly! I will not deny that provided you spend hours straigtening the guns and then painting them as works of art and never touching them EVER they are great. As a wargames model they are (in my opinion only) rubbish as the guns bend to easily and a great model with a bent gun is not a great model. The old Skytrex now defunct (I think) with a pin for a gun was better as at least it stayed straight even if it lacked detail. Again its personal preference.

Working my rule of thumb the min size for a WWII with any sort of armour is about 8 by 6 at 1/72 representing (in my terms 960m by 720m) tight for tanks but they are OK at that. In 144 we use 1mm=1m so you get jusr a bit more 1800yds by 1200 yds out of a 6 by 4 albiet the tanks are a bit over my ideal of about 5 times groundscale but livable with.

Threfore on a 3 ft by 3 ft table using 300 scale at about 1mm=2m you get 914m by 914 m, Tight but tanks can keep a reasonable distance. Thefore I think that despite it being a bit too small to be ideal 1/300 scale looks a sensible scale for you.

As said before terrain is up to you. We use "Angel Hair" to indicate soft going wooded areas (with trees on top) over an appropriately coloured sheet.

Not done it at 1/300 but the ideal may be single hex high Hexon II, not cheap but you can now get flat and single hex high features. You can save money by using it for just hills. or cover everything. These are green but they do do sand. These hills are 2 hewx high with 1/144 models on them.

A very quick test scenario.

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an OTT show display again 1/144 but you get the idea.

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