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Arcane Steve02 Aug 2016 6:05 a.m. PST

A very interesting article on the BBc news today:

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You can see our take on it in our facebook page today:

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The Deezee Mammoths combined with the Lucid eye Neanderthals or Cromagnons will make a good diorama!

Chokidar02 Aug 2016 6:31 a.m. PST

Service was that slow, huh?

John Treadaway02 Aug 2016 9:10 a.m. PST

The most interesting part for me is that these died out within recorded history.

A lot of what if's there…

John T

Prince Rupert of the Rhine02 Aug 2016 10:27 a.m. PST

The last Mammoths allegedly were still going on Wrangel Island until 2000BC

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which makes them contemporary with old kingdom Egypt and ancient Sumer could make for interesting hunting game if you can figure out how to get Mammoths to Egypt :)

jdginaz02 Aug 2016 11:07 a.m. PST

Or get the Egyptians to Wrangel Island.

Rich Bliss02 Aug 2016 11:36 a.m. PST

Still some in Russia around 1900 😉

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Bashytubits02 Aug 2016 12:19 p.m. PST

Being a Mammoth is thirsty work.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2016 2:00 p.m. PST

Interesting article. I've never bought the idea that humans had a hand in extinctions such as the mammoths. I just don't see a small tribal group armed with pointy sticks killing that many mammoths.

gamershs02 Aug 2016 2:54 p.m. PST

Add in fire, cliffs and large boulders and the pointy sticks aren't that important.

zippyfusenet02 Aug 2016 5:08 p.m. PST

This web page has some discussion of Paleoindians hunting mammoths and mastodons:

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Something that isn't on this site (but I have the academic paper in my library) is that the Burning Tree, Ohio mastodon, in particular, had been butchered into four equal sized meat packages, wrapped in hide, and sunk in a pond to preserve the meat. These folks had a system for butchering mastodons. They must have done it regularly.

Platybeladon15 Aug 2016 10:28 a.m. PST

Prince Rupert – may be possible, see this article in Nature:

There's a scene painted on the tomb of one pharaoh representing tributes brought from afar to Egypt, including a parade of exotic animals. One of these animals is an obvious bear, which would have intrigued the pharaoh because bears and ancient Egyptians did not coexist. Just as exotic to the pharaoh would have been the miniature elephantid following just behind the bear. It's depicted with large tusks, so definitely not a juvenile, and displays the peculiar domed skull typical of mammoths and which is absent on African elephants. Could it have been a late-surviving dwarf mammoth brought all the way from Siberia?

Of course, there are alternative interpretations. Asian elephants do have domed skulls, and the artist could have deliberately drawn the elephantid at a reduced scale. However, other animals in the painting are realistically sized.

(Rosen, Baruch; "Mammoths in Ancient Egypt?" Nature, 369:364, 1994.)

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