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TSD10128 Jul 2016 11:01 p.m. PST

Looking for Teutonic flags from 13th to early 15th century. I see Flag Dude has lots of options, but no pictures on the website of said flags and reading other threads it seems recently getting responses seems problematic. Flags of War has a few, and Battle Flag by wargametransfers has water slide decals for the fireforge games figures I'm using. However, those would require a bit more work since I'd have to cut some kind of material to match the shape (I need advice from experienced flag modelers for this)

Am I missing any prominent companies?

STEVE LBMS Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2016 2:16 a.m. PST

You could try mine.




avidgamer Inactive Member29 Jul 2016 3:47 a.m. PST

I second LBM flags. They are the best.

idontbelieveit Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2016 6:21 a.m. PST

I've had good service from both LBM and Battle-flag.

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2016 7:20 a.m. PST

LBMS has outstanding flags in 28mm

wyeayeman29 Jul 2016 9:15 a.m. PST

Might I suggest that you visit and down load these -

Also look up Look up Banderia Prutenorum on your web thingy.

LBMs sheet though nice, is confused.

One of the flags 'looks like' the Grand Masters Burkhard von Scwanden , 1282-1290. OR Gottfried von Hohenlohe , 1296-1303, who were related and carried the same arms (Gottfried inheriting the arms). Brother were not, according to the rules of the order, supposed to carry their own arms. However almost all of the Grand Masters had their arms on their seals.Today the Order is far more relaxed and displays family arms combined with that of the Order

Some of the other are from the Banderia Prutenorum (1448) and some are just 'out there'
The one with the black cross and white lion is unknown to me, as is the one with the Imperial Eagle with the teutonic cross forming a 'Schwenkel' – the streamer in the upper part of the flag.
The two flags with the Imperial adornment – the Imperial Arms and the gold border to the cross which form part of the official arms of the Grand Master, have coloured borders which don't appear on any original illustrations and I believe have a an element of guesswork.
The banner of the Grand Master was a Gonfalon, quite small and hung downwards from a cross piece from a pole.

Unfortunately even if you do look at Banderia Prutenorum, the author Jan Dlugosz made some errors too. Heraldry is a specific science – Arms or banners hung incorrectly are wrong, and Dlugosz simply painted the banners as he saw them hanging in Krakow cathedral. His illustrations need to to be re-orientated in order to work properly.
Unfortunately too this book records only the banners held by the Poles. The banners that went to Vilnius were lost in a fire.

TSD10129 Jul 2016 9:18 a.m. PST

You could try mine.

Those look really good. Any Polish 14th/early 15th century flags? I see some shield/barding transfers but no banners for them.

I should also note I'll be using these figures for Lion Rampant, a Skirmish system with less than 100 men per side so I'm not sure realistically how many flags they would have for such a small force.

vexillia Inactive Member29 Jul 2016 3:33 p.m. PST

Any Polish 14th/early 15th century flags?

Try here – link – they are in the second section so scroll down. Details are in the pdf catalogue.

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