| Pliny The Younger | 19 Jul 2016 7:33 p.m. PST |
I was lucky enough to get a game of DBA in today… I wasn't very thrilled by the game. I like the idea.. fast play on a 2x2… Are there any other rules that accomplish this goal, that aren't in the DBX family? Let me know (Tried to cross post this on several boards, but it failed, any idea why?) Any help is appreciated greatly |
 Extra Crispy  | 19 Jul 2016 7:51 p.m. PST |
Mighty Armies from Rebel Miniatures plays fast and on a 2x2 board. The forthcoming "Triumph" that was shown at Historicon is similar but plays on a 2x3 board. I'm sure there are others… |
| 6mmACW | 19 Jul 2016 7:56 p.m. PST |
Ok, not in the DBx family, but our club plays Chipco (an Ancients variant). The Chipco rules are pretty old, but they are a step up in complexity from DBA, but not as advanced as some of the other rules available. Personally, I find DBA too vanilla, but our club has been enjoying Chipco for years. |
 Whirlwind  | 19 Jul 2016 8:59 p.m. PST |
I use Neil Thomas' "Ancient and Medieval Wargaming" and the Polemos "SPQR" rules for battles of a similar size to DBA. I did a rules comparison a few months back: link |
| agrippavips | 19 Jul 2016 9:25 p.m. PST |
Basic Impetus. None of the pushy:pully of DBA. Small number of units, each on a single base or 4 DBA bases pushed together. Units are ground down and then break unexpectedly. Much more fun to play and FREE!! |
| Fat Wally | 19 Jul 2016 10:24 p.m. PST |
Basic Impetus definitely. |
| pogoame | 19 Jul 2016 11:49 p.m. PST |
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| madaxeman | 20 Jul 2016 12:05 a.m. PST |
L'Arr de la Guerre has its foundations in DBx rules but has more unit-like behaviour for its elements. It plays on a 4x3 with 20-odd elements in the standard format but the 2x2 '100 point' version is half as big and plays well |
| MHoxie | 20 Jul 2016 1:51 a.m. PST |
Ritter and Ritter en Spiel by Hamsterpress (diceless).
Scutarii by Hoplite Research. |
| parrskool | 20 Jul 2016 3:04 a.m. PST |
Neil Thomas as a first resort |
| langobard | 20 Jul 2016 3:42 a.m. PST |
Another vote for Impetus. |
| Shaun Travers | 20 Jul 2016 4:08 a.m. PST |
I have currently on hold my quest to play and blog about lots of fast play ancient rules on a 2'x2' table. I think i have played 27 rulesets since 2009, replaying two different battles (not all with all rulesets) – Callinicum and Heraclea. The list of detailed replays is at this blog page: link The first link on that page is a comparative review of the first 8 I played. If you want a list of the rules used, it is at this blog page: link I wrote my own solo friendly rules over the last few years and so my focus drifted to them. But they are largely complete so I hope to continue replaying other rulesets with a new battle (Sentinum). I have the board setup for Sentinum and have actually played a games with my own rules, but that was one year ago :-( |
| vexillia | 20 Jul 2016 4:54 a.m. PST |
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| kodiakblair | 20 Jul 2016 5:02 a.m. PST |
Highly recommend checking the links Shaun provided. His own rules are definitely worth checking out too. |
| Caliban | 20 Jul 2016 6:34 a.m. PST |
Armati Intro level uses a base per unit, if I remember rightly. |
| Ivan DBA | 20 Jul 2016 7:22 a.m. PST |
Yeah, Armati can be played with a very similar number of figures, but is a very different set of rules from DBA. |
| Lorenzo | 20 Jul 2016 9:09 a.m. PST |
"Art de La Guerre" 100 points is a Perfect substitute for DBA. At 100 points armies are 9-14 units and the board is 60 x 80. There is already a large competitive scene as well, and you have the freedom to compose your armies instead of having them fixed like in DBA. Highly recommended. |
| The Beast Rampant | 20 Jul 2016 9:33 a.m. PST |
I like 'Fantasy Rules!' by Chipco. 2nd ed, or maybe the inappropriately-named "Campaign Edition". The latter is OOP, but it was worth my time to track it down. It probably works best with a few more elements that DBA/HotT, but not necessarily much more. Nothing to stop you from using it for historicals. At it's core, its about twice as complex as Mighty Armies. I have S&S, but haven't tried it out. It looks promising. I have been meaning to check out l'AdlG, and will look into Triumph. |
| Onomarchos | 20 Jul 2016 12:09 p.m. PST |
I think you will find that "Art de La Guerre" 100 point battles retains the things you like about DBA (small game board, small number of units, and standard basing). IMO, they are however, a much better set of rules.
Mark |
| VVV reply | 20 Jul 2016 2:36 p.m. PST |
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| chriscoz | 20 Jul 2016 5:31 p.m. PST |
Armati does a small scale, same basing as DBA at that scale -- stil my favorite game. |
| chriscoz | 20 Jul 2016 5:33 p.m. PST |
I read that the guys from D.C. who ran the DBA tournaments for years at the HMGS events are developing their own set of rules: Triumph! They were demoing at Historicon, but I haven't read any reactions. |
| MHoxie | 21 Jul 2016 1:43 a.m. PST |
Seconding Shaun Travers' rules; also D6 Ancients is pretty good, too. |
| kodiakblair | 21 Jul 2016 6:02 a.m. PST |
Another endorsement for Shaun's rules. |
| Pliny The Younger | 21 Jul 2016 6:20 a.m. PST |
I'll have to give LADG a try for sure. I'll also take a look at armati. I have downloaded ancients d6 and ancient battle lines clash. I'll try to get my opponent to test these rules with me. Currently looking at some of the other rules listed, pretty interesting stuff. Thanks so much for everything |
| warhorse | 21 Jul 2016 6:43 a.m. PST |
I second Shaun's rules, as well as the more advanced adaptations of One Hour Wargames. Also, on the Ancients d6 website, there is a variant (set of adjustments) of Neil Thomas's Ancient and Medieval Wargaming, that uses DBA armies on a 2'x 2' board. |
| Pliny The Younger | 24 Jul 2016 10:44 a.m. PST |
I've looked into a lot of these rules, and think I may have found a home with Ancients D6… I have yet to try the rules, but they seem promising. Any other suggestions? |
