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Private Matter05 Jun 2016 5:12 p.m. PST

..happened last night; at least it was a near miracle with dice as I can imagine. My son and I decided to try Lion Rampant for the first time so we got in a couple test games. We used our normal dice, the type that you can come 36 to a plastic box and can be found at any decent wargaming store. During the first game the dice rolls went as normal but during a key point in the second game something weird happened:

in the third turn of the second game my archers had achieved a couple kills on his band of Yoemen and they failed their morale causing them to become battered. Their retreat still left them in charge range of my mounted men-at-arms so I did what any good commander would do; I charged. When we clashed we each threw twelve dice. Each three or better I would score a hit and he needed sixes since he was battered. If you are familiar with Lion Rampant you may realize that for every two hits I would score he would lose a figure and for every four hits he scored I would lose a figure. So we rolled. My twelve dice came up as 1, 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,4,6. I only killed one flipping Yoemen. I was stunned. When my son muttered "Holy Bleeped text" I thought he was referring to my roll. Then I noticed he was staring down at his dice. He rolled 6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6. All sixes on twelve dice. I thought my roll was an impossibility but his was a down right a miracle. We were stunned and couldn't believe it. We're still laughing about it this evening as we're have a couple beers watching TV.

For those who are curious, I rolled double ones on my lucky hit test and lost my leader. My mounted men-at-arms then failed their morale with another horrific roll. I ended up losing the game, badly. But if you're going to lose what a way to do so.

Has anybody ever seen twelve sixes on a single roll before? In over fortyfive years of wargaming it was a first for me.

TGerritsen05 Jun 2016 5:19 p.m. PST

Nope, that is a first for me. I do recall playing an enormous Warhammer Ancients game where the guy to my flank had a group of 60 Sea People archers. I seem to recall he needed a 4 or better on a d6 and rolled all 60 dice for zero hits.

I was gobsmacked, and he seemed completely deflated. Really bad dice.

Benvartok05 Jun 2016 5:35 p.m. PST

"normal"….better check your sons dice for file or drill marks!

All mine live in their own compound in the games room. Any poor performance and it's field punishment so the rest can see. And sometimes……decimation!.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP05 Jun 2016 5:49 p.m. PST

Well, in about 60 years of gaming, I've seen all kinds
of very unusual rolls.

15 'ones' in a row 14 'sixes' in a batch throw

Three tosses of 8 6-siders, ALL 24 dice came up 'twos'
(bad for the person tossing the dice [not me])

There are more, but the most amazing thing I've ever seen
is a six-sided die tossed by Dick Bryant at an Historicon
game 12-13 years ago. The die landed on a CORNER.
Dick waited for it to flop over to a flat side, but
IDK if it ever did (He took pix, but IDK what happened
to the pix)

Private Matter05 Jun 2016 6:29 p.m. PST

I like that one Ed.

Benvartok: they were all my dice and we were in my gaming room.

Wretched Peasant Scum Inactive Member05 Jun 2016 6:52 p.m. PST

I've had the d6 land on the corner. I claimed it was a seven, but people weren't having it.

Lascaris05 Jun 2016 7:21 p.m. PST

Odds of 12 sixes is approximately .00000005% aka 50 trillionths of a percent or roughly 1 in 20,000,000 chance. Better take him to Vegas now before it wears off.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Jun 2016 8:48 p.m. PST

My first wargame ever – hexes, counters – I charged a redoubt. Should have been slaughtered. Went 13 or 14 out of 16 rolling a 6 to hit. Took the redoubt, shattered the line, game over.

Mardaddy Inactive Member05 Jun 2016 9:39 p.m. PST

One of my early (and only) WFB games I played Dwarves against a friends Chaos. He tried to get into my head about his unit of six Mounted Knights and how awesomely point-expensive and powerful they were.

The exact details are fuzzy, as this was 10? 12? years and 2-3 incarnations before even AoS, but I recall him charging one of my dwarven units, losing the ensuing fight, failing morale and forced to retreat, then rolling horribly low on movement in his retreat, keeping him in attack range of my dwarves still on his same turn (which is something, because they were mounted, and WFB dwarves are the slowest movers of any WFB army.)

My stunties wiped his Knights out.

This was on the second turn, and those Knights represented something like 45% of his total points. He surrendered at that point.

Chuckaroobob05 Jun 2016 10:24 p.m. PST

My personal record is 14 "1" in a row on D6. On the CRT that result was "Attacker eliminated," so it ended the game. And people wonder why I buy lottery tickets. The luck gods owe me.

GurKhan06 Jun 2016 2:17 a.m. PST

Ah, but can you get a D6 to come up 7? My favourite dice story, from "Heimskringla":

"Thorstein Frode relates of this meeting, that there was an inhabited district in Hising which had sometimes belonged to Norway, and sometimes to Gautland. The kings came to the agreement between themselves that they would cast lots by the dice to determine who should have this property, and that he who threw the highest should have the district. The Swedish king threw two sixes, and said King Olaf need scarcely throw. He replied, while shaking the dice in his hand, "Although there be two sixes on the dice, it would be easy, sire, for God Almighty to let them turn up in my favour." Then he threw, and had sixes also. Now the Swedish king threw again, and had again two sixes. Olaf king of Norway then threw, and had six upon one dice, and the other split in two, so as to make seven eyes in all upon it; and the district was adjudged to the king of Norway."

Of course, this King Olaf was _Saint_ Olaf, which may help.

surdu2005 Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jun 2016 11:30 a.m. PST

If anyone cares, the chance of that happening is (1/6)^12, 0.000000000459394, or 1/2176780715.5. The chance of a person being hit by lightning during his lifetime is -- on average -- 1 in 6250 (estimated lifespan of 80 years), or 0.00016. I'd stay inside during stormy weather for the next few weeks. :)

Russ Lockwood06 Jun 2016 1:40 p.m. PST

A dozen 6s. Wow! Not quite the same, but…

Years ago, during a WWII naval game, I managed to place lots of Japanese torps short-range broadside into a couple US ships plus one at an angle. All told, 42 dice to roll with a 1 in 6 chance of a hit. After 42 dice…zero hits.

uglyfatbloke08 Jun 2016 11:26 a.m. PST

Masses of dice and no hits…is that not ordinary? It is for me I'm afraid.

DontTreadOnMe10 Jun 2016 6:41 a.m. PST

Fox Mulder country that………

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