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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2016 9:10 a.m. PST

Just to again say thanks for all the advice on what scale is suitable for 15/18mm figures. The coach is finished and shortly on its way to Oz. Julian Mizzi has great plans for a diorama.

Great fun to make. AB figures modified. (Polish Line artillery……the Early Prussians would have been better). Postillions are a bit military and armed but I think they look right. Just noticed the white blob on the front of the dormouse extension. A blob of superglue to paint over!

Now, can this survive the rip to OZ?

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Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2016 9:16 a.m. PST

So, from where did you get the coach itself?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2016 9:24 a.m. PST

I made it from plastic sheet, brass wire and strip. The train is AB as above. The wheels were the biggest challenge but I found a brilliant range from Langley Models;

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Rear wheels are slightly too small….but only I would notice that!

This was in its early stages….before I sanded down those seams!

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Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2016 10:45 a.m. PST

A most excellent job! Wish someone would make one for commercial sale. My 15mm Napoleon needs one to see if he can prevent the Austrians from capturing his!

Again, a VERY nice model. You, Sir, are a master craftsman!

v/r
Tom

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2016 12:37 p.m. PST

Honestly, it is so simple. You cut plastic sheets of various thickness to size and make a series of boxes. Thinner plastic sheet you have to know how to bend and curve I admit. Plastic rod is in any model shop these days (there are still some shops). Sandpaper and a set of files is essential. Brass strip is becoming very hard to find….but you can cut sheet.

This is one of the two famous captured by the Prussians at Genappe. I have already done the second in 28mm…….but I now havevthe plans and the team for 15mm…so…….

Promise you…this is not the level of skill need to sculpt a figure in 28mm…or, I now realise, a driver of Polish Foot Artillery with buttons and turnbacks in 15 mm! This is what kids like me did in 1968-70 with Airfix conversions. Tanks were easy in 1/72.

Below my 28 mm version from years ago, which now seems so crude……the rear wheels are better sized (the spokes are wrong), but the rest………Before I post to Oz, I must photo the two models side by side…how much respect do I now have for 15 mm scale. I expect it in 6 mm having seen SuperSix tho'

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Ben Avery30 May 2016 12:50 p.m. PST

Lovely work Deadhead. Will it make its way onto the table?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2016 1:03 p.m. PST

Not my table mate. 'er indoors would have a fit.

Only table here is for those poncy supper parties that middle class folk do in North Yorkshire. Our lads hate any comment about a family that ends in an "s".

I know this will not translate….but…up here…if you are worth a bob or two….the conversation so quickly becomes "Oh the Farqhinson-Smythes, the Blenkinsops, the Pilkington-Armitages". We all know they do not have two pennies to rub together these days. But, in the days when I operated on them, they never paid their bills…to a tradesman like me……(before I went back to being a Bolshevik and working NHS only! Hasta La Victoria Siempre!).

My models end up in the garage/the attic/in post to Oz…as here………

I do not throw dice. I collect. But respect those that drive the hobby by buying 1000 copies of the single figure that I order.

I think this will end up in some kind of a diorama. Julian Mizzi just happened to ask if this could be done in 15mm….I thought why not…it has proved incredible fun.

and no…it is not commercial. It is a gift to an old mate I have never actually met…sounds like a nice bloke actually!

Oh Jeeez. Long as I have lived. I now see……I never painted the springs in vermillion on the 28mm version! Is Photography not incredible? But how "cool" (my generation or folk born since phones became things you fiddled with in coffee shops….instead of talking….. can use that word…but only them/us….. are the two door handles….one on the door and one the lock on the carriage….both from WWII brass ship models? Where is my 28mm model? It cannot look as good as the images I have saved….I remember it as grossly crude!.

and now I know I put the front lamps too high on the 15mm version….I hate the camera…….

The original lamps…every glass slide was individually made, the corner brass strips were just that, seven pieces went into the top and bottom (of the 28mm version I stress) of each of the lamps. My marriage did survive that……..

wyeayeman30 May 2016 10:44 p.m. PST

That;s really really good

julianmizzi30 May 2016 11:17 p.m. PST

Deadhead –

I'm seriously chuffed matie. The coach is awesome.

Busily converting some troops here for the diorama. Fingers crossed she makes it to Oz in one piece . I'm sure she will.

I will take lots of happy snaps when she arrives for posting up on the TMP site.

von Winterfeldt30 May 2016 11:52 p.m. PST

Challenging porject – excellently executed – very well done

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2016 3:13 a.m. PST

Thanks all……. I really must fix that white blob!

Last pic before it goes into its box for its travels.

Thought it would be fun to compare it with the 28mm version. That looks so crude now. Lamps are enormous. The profile is better on the new one…more accurate. Only regret in 15mm is the rear wheels. the 28mm one has them spot on. Oh…and the blue interior is probably "right"

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Eclipsing Binaries31 May 2016 3:37 a.m. PST

Suberb! Just… superb!

plutarch 6431 May 2016 6:09 a.m. PST

Any chance of another order to Oz? I'm thinking I wouldn't mind impressing the missus with a 1:1 version (although I suspect she would leave an impression of me against the garage door if I did so).

You have obviously mastered this coach-building business deadhead and I can see that patience is definitely your long suit. Lovely work.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2016 7:36 a.m. PST

Well this one is now in the post wrapped in tissue paper, bubble wrap etc etc!

The 1;1 version has been done………and then smashed up to crash on the moon…seriously. See below……

Love my typo in the opening message…….."the dormouse extension". Let's make that Dormeuse shall we?

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP09 Jun 2016 11:13 a.m. PST

Promise this is not just trying to push a dead thread back to the top, but I must acknowledge a real craftsman who showed how to do this in 1/72. Tiny details not right for the Genappe Coach (NB, it is not meant to be the same vehicle obviously….this is 1813….in practice it is totally based on the famous Mdme Tussaud's coach, just a different colour. The workmanship is fantastic).

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This is real talent…..and "mass" produced in 1/72.

Julian's coach will surely arrive tomorrow. Even UK air freight cannot be this slow……….

How I wish I could move those front two lamps. How did I miss that? At least I did paint out the white blob.

julianmizzi11 Jun 2016 8:50 a.m. PST

Mate i'm waiting too : ) Its public Holiday on Monday – So hopefully Tuesday next week !

julianmizzi14 Jun 2016 11:08 p.m. PST

Took proud delivery of the Berline coach this afternoon. Busily painting escorts , ADC's and other people of interest for a diorama.

Pictures to follow –

Thank you, thank you, thank you DEADHEAD !

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2016 4:40 a.m. PST

What a relief. Last night I did set up my magnifying lamp, sort out all my plastic rods/sheets/strips and brasswork to start again.

I had suspected customs might be a bit suspicious. Impressed that they opened, but resealed without doing any damage. I thought the suspension might suffer. The C springs are brass and superglued, but they are attached to the coachwork with very thin straps (leather on the real thing).

A sneak preview of JM's escort looks incredibly impressive. My postillions need some highlights added to liven them up to his standard.

Now hat about the Prussians looting the Malmaison carriage

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2016 4:42 a.m. PST

What a relief. Last night I did set up my magnifying lamp, sort out all my plastic rods/sheets/strips and brasswork to start again.

I had suspected customs might be a bit suspicious. Impressed that they opened, but resealed without doing any damage. I thought the suspension might suffer. The C springs are brass and superglued, but they are attached to the coachwork with very thin straps (leather on the real thing).

A sneak preview of JM's escort looks incredibly impressive. My postillions need some highlights added to liven them up to his standard.

Now what about the Prussians looting the Malmaison carriage?

julianmizzi15 Jun 2016 5:07 a.m. PST

always room on the shelf lol

julianmizzi15 Jul 2016 9:29 a.m. PST

Deadheads' Berline carriage arrived safe and sound . And i have recently finished the basing of the carriage.

With some suitable escorts , and Berthier's ADC in attendance.

Sincere thanks Deadhead – Very much appreciated !

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Jul 2016 12:06 p.m. PST

Wish I had lined it in blue as intended. Your escort is great though.

Now, you said I could not repeat the Romanov eagle in 15mm, after doing it in 28mm Westfalia on the landau!

Eat yer heart out…….Tho' I say so myself…..not bad………please remember this is not TOTS (The One True Scale)

Rubbish photos with a hand held camera, which is now 12 years old and with a flash…..better to follow!

BTW the missing lamp is going to come with this carriage. Somewhere an Oz Customs Occifer has picked up a 15mm plastic carriage lamp from the floor and wondered….

Oh and the door handle is off the USS Arizona obviously…obviously……

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28mm version I stress from Westfalia…brilliant figure! Landau is lightly too modern for 1812/15 with leaf springs and mudguards, but looks so right!

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2016 1:15 p.m. PST

I meant Slightly………….not lightly…..

How bad does that roof look now, once photo'd?

So unforgiving….

I do not remember the join as being that bad…..It was an after thought..it was meant to be detachable…

How will I live up to von W's professional standards now?

OK but how good is my Romanov eagle on a scale of 1-10? Come on. We are talking about 15/18mm scale!

The limit for your vote is 10 BTW……even if it is that good, or better….

julianmizzi17 Jul 2016 4:15 a.m. PST

pretty darn good :)

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2016 5:09 a.m. PST

Just about to post the finished version!

Except it will not let me….

"Timed out waiting for lock", whatever that means

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