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Sho Boki30 May 2016 2:00 a.m. PST

Sculpting started..
Old projects almost finished and new ones may start.

Davoust30 May 2016 12:36 p.m. PST

look like the supply system broke down! :^)

Sho Boki30 May 2016 9:29 p.m. PST

von Winterfeldt30 May 2016 11:34 p.m. PST

good porgress, check the shape of the hilt and sabre guard – the infantry sabre had a different shape to the later models

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member31 May 2016 3:45 a.m. PST

French Revolutionary infantry!!!! Great news! I need to get back to napoleonics, and these will get me there. I just need to finish some Republican Romans and Numidians for a planned game, and at the speed I'm going you may have these ready at the same time as I get those finished.

Will you be doing Legere or just Ligne? I would love to see Legere in the Mirleton hats as there is only early Shako with side plume available at the moment (except for minifigs). Even early light infantry in bicorne would be extremely useful.

Sho Boki31 May 2016 3:58 a.m. PST

I will do all of them. With my Mass Army concept. These first ones will be with caskets.

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member31 May 2016 4:15 a.m. PST

That is great news. I'm looking forward to seeing these progress.

von Winterfeldt31 May 2016 4:31 a.m. PST

those can be used for early light infantry in green coats as well, as they had the identical cut of uniforms as the line

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member31 May 2016 4:50 a.m. PST

If we can get short gaiters/boots, or whatever they are called, on the legere then they could be used for the various legion infantry as well.

Sho Boki31 May 2016 4:59 a.m. PST

Von Winterfeld asked to sculpt Austrian Jägers in action poses, so French Legeres (with caskets and short gaiters) will be in action poses too.

As you may see, figures are in different height.
But I have only one size action pose doll for now, so these guys I will sculpt later..

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member31 May 2016 5:06 a.m. PST

Austrian Jägers = great news as well. I'll start saving my money.

von Winterfeldt31 May 2016 6:21 a.m. PST

in case figures are of different height – remember to put them on the bases highest front rank – smallest middle rank and middle men – rear rank.
Tallest men on the right – the going down to the left side.
For that reason, I would prefer identical heights.

Sho Boki01 Jun 2016 3:26 a.m. PST

Exactly, everybody have his preferences.
So my Mass Army concept cover this all..
Pure 15mm lovers can use my smaller ones,
AB size lovers can use my bigger ones,
and 1:100 lovers can use them all.

Sho Boki05 Jun 2016 10:34 p.m. PST

First ones takes shape..

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member06 Jun 2016 2:33 a.m. PST

Looking good.

Sho Boki08 Jun 2016 10:31 p.m. PST

Fresh picture. AB ones on both flanks for size comparison.

von Winterfeldt08 Jun 2016 11:06 p.m. PST

cartdige pouch belt width looks good, otherwise I am looking forward to the progress, coat tails etc, so please ocntinue to so side and rear shots as well.

Sho Boki08 Jun 2016 11:11 p.m. PST

There are nothing on rear yet, I finish the front side first.

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member09 Jun 2016 2:42 a.m. PST

Looking good again, though I'm not sure about the height differences (although its probably truer to life than figures that are all the same height).

Are the muskets on all the figure the same size?

Sho Boki09 Jun 2016 3:01 a.m. PST

Yes, all equipment are the same for all.

Sho Boki09 Jun 2016 4:33 a.m. PST

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member09 Jun 2016 5:19 a.m. PST

The tallest two look like they'll be quite a bit larger than AB? Is that correct?

When buying these will we be able to choose whether we want large, medium or small?

I'm also confused about the Legere plans. Are you only going to do these as "action" poses? I would be more likely to buy marching poses of those as those could be used for Legion etc as well as Legere.

Sho Boki09 Jun 2016 5:28 a.m. PST

Yes and no. AB have figures with different sizes too, so they are taller than some AB and smaller than some other AB.
With the same doll height will be different thanks to pose.
My bigger figures represent 180cm tall men and smaller figures represent 160cm tall men.

Yes, they will be available in AB size, 15mm size and 1:100 scale (all together).

"Action" Legers will be additional.
Also there will be separate sets for "Parade" (full uniform) and "Campaign" (overalls etc.) troops. These first are "Parade" ones.

von Winterfeldt09 Jun 2016 5:43 a.m. PST

in case they are parade, then please do the parade step ;-)), most likley impossible to sculpt


Sho Boki09 Jun 2016 5:58 a.m. PST

You really think that I missed this pose? ;)

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member09 Jun 2016 11:38 a.m. PST

Boki wins!

von Winterfeldt09 Jun 2016 1:48 p.m. PST

good effort – but the body seems to leaning backwards – see center of gravity nicely depicted in the plates – I applaud your determination to take on such a difficult pose

Sho Boki11 Jun 2016 2:23 a.m. PST

Sho Boki13 Jun 2016 12:09 a.m. PST

von Winterfeldt13 Jun 2016 4:15 a.m. PST

very nice – I like the dimensions of the back pack and cartridge box.

42flanker13 Jun 2016 4:00 p.m. PST

'casquette" ! }:-}

von Winterfeldt13 Jun 2016 11:20 p.m. PST

casquette most likley not finished, as some details are missing, like the queues of the soldiers

Sho Boki13 Jun 2016 11:48 p.m. PST

Yes, I almost finished robust details, but with fine details there are lot of work to do. Casquettes, faces, queues, buttons, gaiters etc.

42flanker14 Jun 2016 8:24 a.m. PST

Not 'casket'

Just sayin…

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member14 Jun 2016 9:42 a.m. PST

Looks great… apart from the last figure you posted. The right arm looks a little weird.

Sho Boki14 Jun 2016 10:28 a.m. PST

I noticed that too on photo. This looks weird only on this angle of view. But I will see, what I can do..

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member14 Jun 2016 12:17 p.m. PST

Very nice!

Sho Boki14 Jun 2016 9:18 p.m. PST

Is'nt tail pockets too massive?
Maybe I must sand them down a bit?

von Winterfeldt15 Jun 2016 12:08 a.m. PST

You will loose some massivness by casting, in theory you are right, pockets at this time were "false" – just an inlay with passepoil – the real pockets were at the inside of the coat tail lining.
By overdoing them – it is easier to paint and they pop out more, a painting aid.
I would opt, as you did on some figures, to place them a bit higher , just below the taille buttons.
The coat tails are just a bit too long in my view for 1792

Sho Boki15 Jun 2016 10:26 p.m. PST

Yes, I now, tails must be just below the knees.
But Felician Myrbach shows much longer tails for 1791, so I just gived big men coats for some of my smaller figures.

Two figures on right have way too big faces. I will cut them off and do new ones, but maked a farewell photo before this.

von Winterfeldt16 Jun 2016 3:04 a.m. PST

yes but nothing wrong for longer coast tails for Garde National units and later all blue coated infantry, see the Hauck and Backer prints I did send to you for the French Army invading Holland, so in all keep the mix.
Yes the third from the right a pit a big head – but lovely sculpting so far.

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member16 Jun 2016 3:34 a.m. PST

I think the big coats on small men look works quite well. I doubt very much if a French soldier was a bit shorter he would be able to get a good fitting coat. He'd wear what he was given.

When you do your "campaign" dressed troops you will be able to give even more variety. Will we see troops carrying forage (maybe a stolen chicken here and there) and civilian dress items?

Sho Boki16 Jun 2016 4:05 a.m. PST

Something like this is in my mind, yes. I even think to produce more than one Campaign set.

But unfortunately I am not able to offer pure 15mm sets. I was wondering, why my figures grow up in production process. Now I know. My dolls are proportionally correct when sculpting starts, but finished figures have bigger heads, having mouths in place of eyes.

Now faces. One figure lost his head and are not here.
And now I think, that first, smallest figure, need new face too.

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member16 Jun 2016 7:51 a.m. PST

I think you start with a doll that has shoulders at the correct height, but then you build on that, which causes scale creep. I've read that is how scale creep started – dolls based on true 15mm gave us larger 16mm figures, dolls based on those gave us 17mm, then 18mm, and it keeps going until some are 20mm.

Sho Boki16 Jun 2016 8:03 a.m. PST

Exactly! I have 15mm, 16mm and 17mm dolls and results will be 16-17-18mm figures.

Sho Boki19 Jun 2016 2:32 a.m. PST

Eclipsing Binaries Inactive Member20 Jun 2016 6:41 a.m. PST

Looking good. Should these have a plume at the left side of the casquette?

Sho Boki20 Jun 2016 7:07 a.m. PST

Good question. I hope that von Winterfeldt help us with this.
On pictures I see mostly legers with plumes.
And as I know, officers weared bicorned hats, but on one picture even officer wear casquette with plume.

von Winterfeldt20 Jun 2016 11:14 a.m. PST

look at the Hoffmann prints – also here line infantry has this plume -
for parade this plume, white with the top in facing colour is worn, for everyday wear a smaller "houppe" of 3 pouces height and 2 pouces diameter, the cockade had on the helmet a diameter of 2 pouuces.

For grenadiers it is confusing, the bearskin cap was supressed in 1786 but re introduced in 1791 – also they had a hat in 1791 as well.

According to Margerand – the grenadiers did wear in the field the hat and not the bearskin cap – that is in 1792 for the line units.

I should have sent immages of the helmet with plume and houppe.

Sho Boki20 Jun 2016 11:49 a.m. PST

Thanks! Yes, there are many demo pictures with plumes, but on action pictures only legeres wear them and line ones don't even wear houppes.

But I am happy to add plumes, these makes moulding and casting much easier, by eliminating some negative angles in mould.

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