"Which is Your Favorite Unseen BattleMech?" Topic

Unseen Mechs from BattleTech are coming back (same names and stats, though the reseens will have new artwork to avoid any possible legal entanglements). Which of the original unseen Mechs is your favorite?

(from link

Archer
Battlemaster
Black Python (Viper)
Conjurer (Hellhound)
Crusader
Galleon Light Tank (Only the image from Technical Readout: 3025)
Glass Spider (Galahad)
Goliath
Grand Crusader
Griffin
Griffin IIC
Horned Owl (Peregrine)
Howler (Baboon)
Incubus (Vixen)
Jenner IIC
Locust
Locust IIC
Longbow
Marauder
Marauder II
Marauder IIC
Nexus
Phoenix Hawk
Phoenix Hawk IIC
Phoenix Hawk LAM
Raijin
Rifleman
Rifleman IIC
Samurai AeroSpace Fighter
Scorpion
Shadow Hawk
Shadow Hawk IIC
Stinger
Stinger LAM
Thunderbolt
Valkyrie
Vapor Eagle (Goshawk)
Warhammer
Warhammer IIC
Wasp
Wasp LAM
Wolverine

How can I possibly make a decision on that, if they can't be seen?

I'm an aesthetics kind of guy.

Can't choose between Marauder or Warhammer :-) come to think of it the Rifleman too.

Hunlion

P.s Can you give more details about this new release.

Marauder and Warhammer are both on the top of my list.

Warhammer or Archer for me.

archer and riflemen

Marauder for me, although the Viper is a really effective mech.

Warhammer and Rifleman have always been my favorites. They are what got me interested in both games of Battletech and the Robotech RPG.

Battlemaster and Warhammer.

@John, general announcement was made for GenCon last year, some of the new artwork has begun to appear on tumblr. No news on actual models yet that I've heard.

My faves are also among the ones that I've built several of the 1/144 plastic kits over the years:
Battlemaster
Goliath (always been undergunned in gameplay, but love the looks!)
Griffin
Shadow Hawk

Warhammer

Plenty of iconic machine sthere (Maurader and Warhammer are indeed so cool), but got to say Locust!

Locust pilots are the weirdest…

(Anyone know where FASA pilfered the design from?)

Wasn't the Locust originally from Crusher Joe? It's one of my favorites along with the Galleon and Samurai.

PNT9r Panther.

Marauder and Warhammer.

Warhammer

There is something special about the original mechs.

The Warhammer is my favorite, both in looks and how it plays. I end up overheating and shutting down a lot but is sure is fun!

Great topic Mo.

I have seen the artwork for the new Warhammer and Marauder but havent seen any mechs released yet. Hopefully we see actual mechs this year at GenCon.

Archer&Rifleman

Yes, Locust and Galleon were Crusher Joe, have those in 1/144 kits too!

The designes weren't pilfered, there were genuine licensing agreements for Macross, Dougram, and Crusher Joe. But there was such a tangled morass of licensing agreements across multiple companies and countries, FASA voluntarily withdrew the unseens just to avoid possible lawsuits which, win or lose, could have financially crippled the company.

Warhammer or Griffin for me.

I see them all the time, I have the original Battletech game (not Battledroids mind).

Favorite is the Warhammer, my favorite of the redone "unseen" is the Marauder. One of the few where they took a good design and made it better. Unlike the first original (those not "borrowed" from anime) designs for the game – they were dreadful.

I'm a fan of the Panther, the Draconis Combine should field hordes of them since in the lore they have a functional factory. As a pilot, the Phoenix Hawk LAM wins hands down. Win initiative, jump in and backstab. Lose initiative and jump out of the line of sight/range. It's cheesy, but effective.

The Panther is not one of the unseen. FASA did not drop any of the original mechs to which they wholly owned the artwork. Only ones where outside companies held the artwork rights got disappeared.

I don't think I have seen any of these…

Well, actually I couldn't identify them to save my soul.

They are all just big stompy targets to me.

Marauder

Warhammer and Phoenix Hawk LAM.

Man, LAMs were broken, rules-wise. Keep them in whatever the halfway mode was (gerwalk in Macross/Robotech) and they're impossibly fast, don't generate any heat, and will backstab an Atlas without breaking a sweat.

Warhammer & Marauder of course

Anyone know anything about the release of the new 'unseen' models?

Marauder, Rifleman and Warhammer were always tops on my list.

The Warhammer always has *been* Battletech to my mind (based on the old boxed set covers), though my personal favorite probably is the Battlemaster. It looks cool *and* it's a fun ride in the game.

@MiniMo- Actually there are pictures floating around of a new (plastic?) Warhammer miniature, so I think new minis are in the works!

-Will

Warhammer, then Locust, then Marauder. Warhammer is not the best mech in my opinion, though a dangerous mech… but if there is an iconic image for "my" Battletech, the Warhammer is it.

Chalfant

Mine are in this order, with other I have no idea or not really bothered about taken out:

Marauder
Warhammer
Wolverine
Shadow Hawk
Battlemaster
Griffin
Thunderbolt
Wasp
Locust
Archer
Stinger
Crusader
Galleon Light Tank
Goliath
Phoenix Hawk
Phoenix Hawk LAM
Rifleman
Scorpion
Wasp LAM

Glen

Battlemaster, best looker.

There's one missing from that list. It's probably one of the most obscure Mechs in Battletech. The 40 ton Vindicator. It was on the table in the original MechWarrior rulebook where you rolled to see which Mech you got. I never saw the stats or the picture in any Battletech book yet there it was, and it was the one I rolled. So I got to design it myself.

At 40 tons it wasn't powerful enough to go in an Assault or Command lance, but it was chunky for Recon lance. I designed it as Recon lance's command mech. Whilst the Wasps and Locusts sprung around and zapped light enemy units, the Vindicator could cover their withdrawl when the big stuff showed up.

Warhammer and Battlemaster

Hmm, I've got the Vindicator image in my 3050 Technical Readout from 1990 which does include the Mechs that were not yet unseen. And the Vinidcator looks just like the miniatures made by Ral Partha and later Iron Winds, so that is indeed a 'always seen' mech.

May have just been a glitch that it wasn't in the MechWarrior book. (Or maybe they got it confused with an Ostsol/Ostroc image )

Depends, MiniMo…how far back does your MechWarrior book go? Mine was from 1985 and even in 1988, when I bought my last Battletech product, it wasn't there.

I never bought TRO 3025, so don't know if it was shown in that like it is in TRO 3050. But…

*dig* *dig* *dig* Eureka, successful archaeology!

Battletech Reinforcements, 1987. I only bought it for the record book, the fold-up mechs are still unpunched — and there is a pair of fully arted Vindicators.

Shadowhawk was my favourite unseen mech.

Still have it, and an old marauder from my old BT days.