"Russians Barrel Roll Another US Plane" Topic

Russian jet barrel rolls another US plane over intl. airspace in the Baltics.

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I wonder what would happen if the American pilot pops all his flares and chaff right when the Russian jet does the flyover. Sucking several flares into the intakes can't be fun.

No one will call them on their "antics", it will be sad when pilots start dying because of someone showing off.

I wonder how Putin would react to the same.
Just an idle thought…..

Maybe they were just keeping up foreign relations.

The reporter looked like someone off a bad SNL skit.

Well, the Turks shot one down and the incursions ceased, so………

Yeah, next time they do that, we need to shoot the mofo down and tell the Russkies we have no idea what happened. The guy just pulled his maneuver, lost control and augured in.

So, American spy airplane came within 100 feet of Russian plane performing manuevres.

Russians probably were making their version of "Top Gun".

Somebody probably lost a bet.

And another pilot gets street cred in the ready room. Move along, folks. Nothing new here…..

I remember how Russian bombers were criticized for having their trasnponders off while flying near European countries.
This is the same case here – RC-135 had its transponder off on "routinely" spying mission.
As I wrote earlier, I still think that there might be a more polite ways of showing the plane off, but we don't now, what is a % between these "routine missions" going as intended, and those, met by barrel rolling.

Barin,

Your countrymen were deliberately flying through civil controlled airspace, with transponders off and deliberately changing altitude to cause maximum disruption in some of the most congested civil airspace in the world.

Well, you're talking about an incident near UK, but it is easy to find how many times it was complained that Russian military planes are in the international airspace with their transponders off – also on Baltic sea, where we had RC flying.
What I haven't seen translated into English are the comments of our MOD on latest RC accident.
What was said, that all the time RC's were on its routine flight that somehow taking them as close to Kaliningrad military infrastructure as possible,but staying in international airspace, these spy planes have their transponders off.
And while we're here, 2 US spy planes were intercepted near Kamchatka only in April.

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All part of "the game" …

Barin,

Not from me.

Only the ignorant complain about such things, as there's nothing wrong with being in international, uncontrolled airspace with transponders off. Routine, Russian penetrations of the UK ADIZ are not normally a problem at all, despite the screaming gutter press. They're always intercepted by UK QRA in a safe and professional manner with no potential for accidents or misunderstandings re intent.

The key words being 'safe' and 'professional'. Compare and contrast.

If you don't like people being near your airspace, perhaps your barely-trained aircrew should stay away from ours, eh?

I wonder what would happen if the American pilot pops all his flares and chaff right when the Russian jet does the flyover. Sucking several flares into the intakes can't be fun.

The technical term for that is FOD, and the end result is about like United 1549 landing in the Hudson: Engines no worky, time to impersonate a lawn dart.

See also the tail end of the movie Firefox, the Rear Defense Pod is the chaff/flare launcher.

You do not want to know what a single 3/8" bolt will do to a turbine.

I figured as much. Since the flares are between 5-8" long and burn at about 2,000 degrees F., I suspect they would do some reconfiguring to engines.

Since they are considered countermeasures, it wouldn't even be an aggressive act.

Worse, the engine would break up the flare into small pieces and feed it high-pressure air, probably causing an explosion. (difference between 5lbs of solid log or 5lbs of sawdust)

This is in addition to all the damage eating an 8" long piece of metal would do to an engine in the first place.

Eh, next time just say that the CIWS was 'live' as part of a routine training mission. Just bad luck the pilot chose that time to 'buzz' the ship…