"Russia's Military Modernization: Where Next?" Topic
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Tango01 | 27 Apr 2016 10:23 p.m. PST |
"Following years of rumors, and its initial showing during a military parade in Moscow last year, Russia's newest battle tank, the Armata, continues to make headlines. The Uralvagonzavod factory tabbed to produce the machine announced recently that it could produce an unmanned Armata as well, calling such a tank the weapon of the future. The famous military production plant already has experience with unmanned machines -- it produces a robotic fire truck on the basis of the T-72 battle tank. According to plant management, mass production of the newest manned Armata tanks could begin later this year -- field testing is well underway. Uralvagonzavod will be busy in the coming years as it answers numerous government orders for the production, modernization, and upgrade of a broad selection of military equipment. The orders include T-72B3 tanks, BMP-2 armored vehicles, MSTA 2S19M1 self-propelled artillery systems, BTR-82AM armored personnel carriers, airborne combat vehicles, and other products -- all told, the factory will deliver more than 1,400 vehicles to the Russian armed forces…" Full article here link Amicalement Armand |
cwlinsj | 27 Apr 2016 10:42 p.m. PST |
Um, how do the 2,300 T-14s supposedly planned, fit into 1,400 mathematically? After we subtract all the T-72s, BMPs, BTRs, etc., that they will also build? |
dsfrank | 28 Apr 2016 8:25 a.m. PST |
Since the end of WWI they've always surprised us by what they've done – which wasn't what they said they'd do (if they said anything at all) – why should they change now? |
Barin1 | 28 Apr 2016 9:09 a.m. PST |
2.300 were not supposed to be delivered within a year. Actually, as we know, the army is getting 100 tanks this year in addition to 14 on field testing. Therefore, the rest 1300 will be these SPG, BTR and BMP – it is very possible. |
EMPERORS LIBRARY | 28 Apr 2016 10:39 a.m. PST |
If the Armata tank is so good why are they still ordering large numbers of T72s? And what about the T90 as well? |
cwlinsj | 28 Apr 2016 11:01 a.m. PST |
Barin1, I'm reading this article. It says they will build 1400 vehicles in the coming years. I take that as the total planned builds. Wouldn't 2,300 T-14s fit into that total? Uralvagonzavod will be busy in the coming years as it answers numerous government orders… all told, the factory will deliver more than 1,400 vehicles to the Russian armed forces… |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 28 Apr 2016 11:11 a.m. PST |
We all know that announced planned acquisition figures almost never meet actual production numbers. I mean, do we actually believe the USAF, Navy and USMC are going to end up with the number of F-35's as on their planned wishlists? Frankly, I doubt the Russians will even end up with 1,400 Armatas. |
Barin1 | 28 Apr 2016 11:59 a.m. PST |
T-72B are foreseen for modernization order. 2300 tanks were named as "planned total number of T-14" and 1400 vehicles mean all types listed "in coming years", while 2300 might mean "before aliens attack" or "before North Korea joins NATO". There's no contradiction here, but no precise information too. |
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