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Winston Smith24 Apr 2016 12:34 p.m. PST

I got a pack of these figures to salt in with my skirmish troops.
Were black troops present to any large extent in Loyalist formations, armed as line troops?
I know they were present to a larger number in Northern Continental units than Southern.
I am not looking for strict numbers or percentages, just general guidelines. A few here, a few there…..

Bashytubits24 Apr 2016 6:49 p.m. PST

See if this webpage helps.
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Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2016 7:32 p.m. PST

I know there was a small cavalry unit of Loyalist black troops in South Carolina. A company or two from memory.

Winston Smith24 Apr 2016 7:37 p.m. PST

Thanks for the links. It seems my Loyalist ranks shall be free of Black soldiers. But my Hessians? Hmmmmm….
Cavalry?

Glengarry524 Apr 2016 8:31 p.m. PST

The "Black Dragoons served as individuals in troops of Loyalist regiments, notably the South Carolina Royalists", a mixed foot and mounted legion in which had blacks serving as dragoons and in the infantry companies. A company of Black Pioneers was raised from runaways from the Carolinas and served in New York and other cities in the Northeast. The Ethiopian Regiment wore sailor shirts emblazoned with the slogan "Liberty to slaves", (Perry makes them) the regiment was dissolved in 1776, some of them were transferred to the "Virginia company of blacks' while others employed as labour for the Royal Artillery. . The East Florida Rangers had 4 black companies (out of 11, all understrength). There were more blacks serving in British territories in the islands of the Carribean and Central America. MAA 250, American Loyalist Troops 1775-84

Winston Smith24 Apr 2016 8:44 p.m. PST

Well, I am looking for uses for the specific pack from Old Glory.

nevinsrip24 Apr 2016 11:53 p.m. PST

I'm curious as to why Old Glory made them? They must have has something in mind.

Winston Smith25 Apr 2016 6:51 a.m. PST

Probably the high percentage of black troops in the Continentsl regiments.
They're in the same style as the "other" Continental figures, but with vaguely black features.
If I want a real 100% black regiment, there is the Rhode Island pack, but I don't want to buy a 30 figure pack. My largest units are 15 strong.

cavcrazy25 Apr 2016 9:51 a.m. PST

I have black troops in my Continental units.
I was watching a show on the history channel that stated "By the end of the war 30% of the Washington's army were men of color." I don't know if it was really that high or not, but I have them in my ranks.

Doc Ord25 Apr 2016 11:42 a.m. PST

I have that same pack and was going to scatter them through various units. I was also going to use them for the South Carolina Royalists along with some of the figures with floppy hats--a mix of white and black troops.

Supercilius Maximus25 Apr 2016 12:05 p.m. PST

@cavcrazy – Alas, the number of blacks in the Continental Army is massively over-stated for modern-day political reasons. At low points in the recruiting cycle, there were quite a few – maybe 10% overall, perhaps 15% in some units – because they tended to re-enlist more frequently than whites (either because they were slaves serving as substitutes, or because being a "free man of colour" wasn't as much fun as it sounds).

The "famous" Rhode Island Regiment had far fewer black men in the ranks than is commonly made out (see "So Few the Brave" by Anthony Walker). It is a shame that people do this, as it devalues the genuine service of those who did take part.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2016 1:51 p.m. PST

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