Bunkermeister | 07 Apr 2016 11:20 p.m. PST |
In order to get a bunch of horses, artillery crews, and limbers and wheels, I am buying a bunch of the Airfix WWI Royal Horse Artillery sets. I now have the guns left, without wheels. I don't do the British Army. Did the US Army ever use the 13-pounder? Did any army use the 13-pounder? Did the British Army use it with rubber tires? Did the Germans capture and use any in WWII? Thanks. Mike Bunkermeister Creek Bunker Talk blog |
bsrlee | 07 Apr 2016 11:33 p.m. PST |
It saw limited use mid-WW1 as an anti-aircraft gun – they just mounted the whole piece minus wheels on a pedestal mount. Much like the French with their 75. The main problem with the 13 pounder was that it was purely a light cavalry 'galloper' piece and was much shorter ranged and less powerful (75 vs 84mm calibre IIRC)than the 18 pounder which could be pulled by the same size horse team, so it was rapidly withdrawn from front line service everywhere and limited to training and not much else. |
GildasFacit | 08 Apr 2016 3:35 a.m. PST |
Its lighter weight made it a bit more useful in difficult terrain, where it had to be manhandled, but that was about its only real advantage. It actually wasn't that bad a gun for its day and the breech could stand a larger than 'normal' charge to give a higher velocity – as was used in the AA version. French 75's & German 77's were longer ranged but still only packed the same punch – they were both in use beyond WW1. US army may have used them in extremis but they standardised on the French 75mm – they did use the 4.5" howitzer I think as it was already being made in the US. Canadians & other Empire troops probably used them, ANZACs in the Mid east too. You could check if Greece used them – they did have other British kit at times. |
monk2002uk | 08 Apr 2016 6:14 a.m. PST |
The British also used some 13 pounders in an anti-tank role later in the war (1918). American divisions who served with British corps during 1918 may have had 13 pounders for this purpose but these divisions were never engaged in defensive actions, at least that I know of. Robert |
Lt Col Pedant | 08 Apr 2016 7:19 a.m. PST |
The Irish Republican Army of the Civil War period? |
wrgmr1 | 08 Apr 2016 8:43 a.m. PST |
Quick Google, Canadian RHA and Naval guns. link |
GuyG13 | 08 Apr 2016 11:15 a.m. PST |
The South African's fighting in East Africa used the 13 Pounders |
CCollins | 08 Apr 2016 7:09 p.m. PST |
I wonder if the Portuguese or Belgians may have used some? looks like they mostly used french 75s as their main field gun. i also gather that the Germans in east Africa may have captured some. I'd also suggest there isn't a lot of external difference between the 13 and 18 pounders especially on the elderly airfix set. Life would be far easier if you Succumbed to the Dark Side….. Join us! we have tea and jam on scones :D Chris
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Martin Rapier | 08 Apr 2016 11:32 p.m. PST |
Yes, the 13pdr looks very much like an 18, especially the highly detailed and accurate Airfix one:) |
GildasFacit | 09 Apr 2016 2:25 a.m. PST |
Belgians used Krupp 75mm guns at the start of the war. A few units being reformed in the British sector may have had 13pr/18pr temporarily but 'officially' it was French 75mm as standard. |
Lt Col Pedant | 09 Apr 2016 6:04 a.m. PST |
There was a clear difference between the length of gun barrel and recoil chamber between the 13 pdr and the 18 pdr. In the former case both were more or less equal length; in the latter, the gun barrel was longer. |
Bunkermeister | 09 Apr 2016 11:28 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the replies. Mike Bunkermeister Creek Bunker Talk blog |