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hongihika26 Mar 2016 6:56 p.m. PST

We'll be coming all the way to London UK to put on a game at Salute – carrying the battlefield and terrain and mini's in our suitcases.

The game is a Tribal skirmish, re-enacting a Maori raid on a coastal settlement (pa)- using Eureka's new Maori figures and our own Tribal rules.


Regular updates on our preparations for Salute, and details on the rules here:
Have a look at the combat phase of the rules here:
YouTube link


Come along and say hello – share a maori hongi and pukana. Have a go at a round of combat (couple of minutes), and receive a free maori figure from Eureka for your troubles! Hope to see you there!

zippyfusenet27 Mar 2016 6:15 a.m. PST

Verrry interestink. Wish I could get to Salute. Some interesting concepts in those rules. Great figures and terrain, too.

More than ten years ago…a fellow named Trevor Brabyn was working on rules called "Tribe Against Tribe" for Maori Wars, among others. He was a talented writer, scenario designer and figure painter. I think he was a New Zealander. He dropped out of sight. He hasn't turned up in your neighborhood, has he?

Don Manser27 Mar 2016 7:09 a.m. PST

Very nice!

Vigilant27 Mar 2016 7:25 a.m. PST

Have a good trip. I'll look out for the game between spending far too much money.

Early morning writer27 Mar 2016 7:33 a.m. PST

Just make sure that is checked luggage! Trying to take that through a security check point might be problematic. Looks really nice, though.

And what dedication, traveling from the antipodes, or thereabouts.

hongihika27 Mar 2016 3:50 p.m. PST

Thanks guys – words of encouragement/support much appreciated!

zippyfusenet – glad you like the rules, I find them fascinating as well. Given my notoriety for rolling 1's when I least need them, I quite enjoy being involved in the combat itself with the cut and thrust of cards. Thanks for the heads-up regarding Tribe Against Tribe. I don't know Trevor Brabyn, but I just found his old colonial website. The rules for Maori/Woodland indian tribal warfare are here:

I think they're quite good – and show a good depth of research! I'm particularly interested in the requirement for chiefs to build a warparty amongst various hapu/sub-tribes. I'd like to do a set of campaign rules where Tribes fight for supremacy/hegemony in their region, and negotiation with other sub-tribes can be important.

Vigilant – see you there, I'll probably be sneaking off to buy stuff as well. From what friends tell me, I won't get a chance to see the whole of Salute, but I'll give it a real-good try.

Early morning writer – yeah, my friend and I are coming from Melbourne, Aus. Tiles will fit in a suitcase, we'll try and insulate it with bubblewrap etc. Looong flight which I'm not looking forward to… But this will be made up for by Salute, and then we'll go to Nottingham to check out Foundry and WH-world, and then up north to Bamburgh and Yorkshire (Royal Armouries Leeds Game expo the following Saturday), and then down sarf to Hastings and Portsmouth to check out HMS Victory. As my wife calls it, a wargamer's geek-week and a half. ;)

Khazarmac28 Mar 2016 3:30 a.m. PST

Will be at Salute, so will look out for you!

Khazarmac28 Mar 2016 3:35 a.m. PST

Also, if you are going to Portsmouth, your ticket to the Naval Base can include HMS Warrior, the Mary Rose and also the Naval Museum. Very nearby is the Royal Armouries artillery collection; free to get into at Fort Nelson (which is one of the Victorian "Palmerston's Follies" forts). If you've got time, you're also only an hour and a half from the Tank Museum at Bovington.

hongihika04 Apr 2016 2:56 a.m. PST

Thanks for that Khazarmac, methinks I'll be spending a large amount of time around Portsmouth. I'll just be missing out on the Jutland exhibition, which is a real shame, but I'm looking forward to finding this diorama which is supposedly in the Royal Naval Museum:


Been listening to Split Enz's 'Six Months in a Leaking Boat' to get me in the mood for HMS Victory ;) :
YouTube link

Talking about leaky boats… Mike Parker from Battlefield Accessories has done a set of maori waka for my game. I think they look great, particularly the whakairo (carving).



And here is the latest on our gameboard tiles, flocked and ready to pack into a suitcase!


Not long until Salute… if you're there, pop by and say hello!

deflatermouse13 Apr 2016 3:52 a.m. PST

Amazing Wakas.
Are they available in 15mm?
I'm starting 15mm Maori wars but not sure if to do Musket wars, 1842 or '1860's.
There's also a 3-D printable Pa available around here somewhere.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP14 Apr 2016 5:28 a.m. PST

I'd noticed that game on the Salute Guide will definitely be stopping by.

hongihika14 Apr 2016 6:04 p.m. PST

Deflatermouse – not sure if Mike will be doing 15mm waka's, I'll ask him. The 3-D pa is done by Arteis: link

I'd recommend the latter wars, as there's more flexibility for different types of battles and settings. The musket wars involved my ancestor Hongi Hika and, while it certainly wasn't one-sided, it can still be a sensitive thing to bring up with other tribes that suffered greatly at the hands of the Ngapuhi – particularly Ngati whatua and Te Arawa, I reckon. The northern/flagpole wars interest me, at a subjective level b/c of the involvement of more of my ancestors, but I think the scope for a campaign wouldn't be great…

20thmaine – cool, look forward to meeting you. I'll be the big Maori fullah with a bag full of Salute shopping. ;)

We just flew in from Oz this morning. After a few pints of oyster stout at Porterhouse in London, and a few scotch eggs and pork pies, currently battling jet lag and getting stuff ready for set up at Excel centre.

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