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Tango0103 Mar 2016 8:59 p.m. PST

"Several Neanderthal sites in France have yielded large numbers of small black blocs. Neanderthals used these 'manganese oxides' in fire-making and not as previously thought for colouring.

The usual interpretation is that these 'manganese oxides' were collected for their colouring properties and used in body decoration, potentially for symbolic expression.

Neanderthals habitually used fire and if they needed black material for decoration, soot and charcoal were readily available, whereas obtaining manganese oxides would have incurred considerably higher subsistence costs…"
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Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2016 9:05 p.m. PST

We have moved so far from the view of them as sub-human, when the first skull was discovered in the C19th.

Zargon04 Mar 2016 3:01 a.m. PST

Now whose da monkey :)

Dave Crowell04 Mar 2016 8:17 a.m. PST

The full paper is interesting reading. The interesting point to me is that unlike nearby painted caves in which a variety of manganese oxides were used as pigments in the proposed "fire starting" sites only a particular manganese dioxide was collected, this being the form of manganese ore that produces an advantage in fire making which others do not.

books2thesky04 Mar 2016 9:28 a.m. PST

Wow, that's really interesting!

Tango0104 Mar 2016 10:35 a.m. PST

Happy you enjoyed it my friend!. (smile)

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DyeHard04 Mar 2016 12:52 p.m. PST

Catalytic combustion, Pretty tricky for 50,000 years ago.

goragrad05 Mar 2016 6:45 p.m. PST

Interesting.

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