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Guthroth03 Mar 2016 1:53 p.m. PST

Are there any period sources for German War plans in the 1890's ?

Especially, relating to an invasion of Britain


Tommy2003 Mar 2016 2:16 p.m. PST

I don't know about actual war plans, but I've used the invasion fiction of the time as inspiration:

The Battle of Dorking
The Great War in England in 1897
The Invasion of 1910

gamershs Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2016 3:55 p.m. PST

An interesting idea was Germany invading the US.
Operation Plan III (Operationsplan III in German)which came out in 1903. I suspect that this plan would have been extremely difficult as the US fleet was growing at this time. The German fleet was not strong enough unless it was completely committed and ambushed parts of the US fleet.

An interesting book is 1901 by Robert Conroy which is about the German invasion of US in 1901

Ian Dury03 Mar 2016 5:03 p.m. PST

It's a very long time since I read it – but try this:
"The War Plans of the Great Powers, 1880 – 1914"
Can't remember if it covers exactly what you want, but well worth a look

RudyNelson04 Mar 2016 10:13 a.m. PST

There were a number of books by the West Point Press back in the 1960s which covered the pre 1914 chance of war. One book covered 900 and one covered 1890.
IIRC Upton had a title on the available forces for each country between 1890 and 1900.
THat was a long time ago and my brain may be fuzzy on the tears but I do remember one of the authors.

boy wundyr x04 Mar 2016 2:41 p.m. PST

There are a few pre-WWI war fiction novels available via POD publishers on Amazon, including a couple of Tommy20's. There ares also these collections:
Also fiction, but based on the fears and realities of the time.

GoodOldRebel05 Mar 2016 5:15 a.m. PST

The book "Riddle in the Sands" by Erskine Childers published in 1903 tapped into the growing fear of German aggression. The 1979 film is a must see as well!

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Mar 2016 10:39 a.m. PST

The US came VERY close to going to war with Germany in 1902 over the Venezuela situation.

TheBeast09 Mar 2016 9:05 p.m. PST

I love the Avalanche Great War at Sea series; the US were plans ready to go to war with everybody, and there were supporters of each plan. ;->=

If Teddy and Bertie hadn't been such great pals…

There used to be a couple of invasion of England games on WargameVault, but they aren't listed anymore. Last Stand at Surbiton, 1871 was a small 'intro', but the Battle of Dorking was supposed to be much bigger. Alas, I only got the smaller one.

Oh, wait, BGG says Dorking was released last year. Time to apply Google Fu!


Edit: *blush* How easy was that? link

*blush-pard-deux* There's a new Print-and-Play version on WargameVault, Dorking 1875. I was looking a the wrong publisher.

Old Contemptibles11 Mar 2016 12:31 p.m. PST

If it's the Schlieffen plan you want. Then this is a really good bock that covers it in the first part of the book. Talks about its evolution and how it was modified prior to the war. Really good read


TheBeast13 Mar 2016 9:30 a.m. PST

Anyone try the Battle of Dorking and Last Stand at Surbiton games that used to be on Wargames Vault?

I gather they were removed when The Battle of Dorking, 1871, was published as a box game, though renamed/timed Dorking, 1875.

Alas, I'd only gotten Surbiton, and that was a 'mini' demo of the larger game.


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