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19 Feb 2016 9:38 p.m. PST
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Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2016 1:55 p.m. PST

I think it all comes back to matters of personal taste. But as far as the OP's argument of value proposition goes, I don't find it compelling.

What I'm trying to say is this – If you personally can get a GW army or armies collected for half the price of the original prices, and you still cry ripoff, well then you are disliking GW for some other reason that has nothing do with pricing.

First, if a boxed set is marked down by 50% and still costs $69 USD to $75 USD, then it was extremely overpriced to begin with. Being a relatively good value compared to its original price is not the same as being a good value, period. It's like saying that man should go to Saturn because it's so much closer than Pluto (which is still a planet in my book, dammit), when Venus and Mars are right next door. 47 minis for $70 USD is still not a good value. I could go to Mantic Games' "Age of Kings" line or Wargames Factory's plastics and get twice the minis at half the cost (literally, I can get 64 minis for $40 USD from Wargames Factory; the Kings of War 2-player starter has 93 minis for $84 USD direct, or $63 USD from The War Store).

Second, and this may sound odd, but with GW minis, especially the Sigmar ones, there isn't enough variety of style. Oh, sure, there are lots of minis with different names and weapons and mounted on whatever-beasts, but overall, the style is consistently one of minis with comically ridiculous proportions, oversized weapons, and unrestrained festooning with baubles, bangles, appurtenances, and accouterments. The AoS minis aren't even nice to look at, especially compared with the LOTR lines.

40K suffers from this, as well. You do have some cleaner, sleeker lines -- Tau, I'm looking at you -- but then you have the Marines, Chaos, Dark Eldar, Light Eldar, Nacho Cheese Eldar, Nuns-with-Guns, etc., that just loaded down with more and more crap. Sometimes, more is less. I'd rather have something clean like a Copplestone fig with just one or two little touches than a fig that looks like a teenager set loose in a mall with a credit card after a methamphetamine binge.

So, I think the OP's post only holds water for someone who is actually attracted to GW minis (and rules) and committed to playing those games. Otherwise, there are so many games and minis out there that are a better objective value than what GW peddles, third-party discounts notwithstanding, that it's almost a problem of apples and oranges comparison.

Marc the plastics fan23 Feb 2016 3:16 p.m. PST

Overpriced tat

Halving the price just leaves them overpriced still

Good luck to those who like overpriced toys

Rudysnelson24 Feb 2016 1:43 p.m. PST

As a store, I rejected GW price increases and prices in general back in 1985. Their distributing minimums were too high for a small store to meet so we decided not to carry the miniatures. Though we could get some box games for a few years, we stopped them too by 1990.

So after 33 years in business, I have not went under like many of my competitors. I attribute a lot of the survival on not getting stuck in required bulk purchases by GW and Battlefront. All that results in is dead stock.

alpha3six26 Feb 2016 7:55 a.m. PST

@GildasFacit

It always amazes me the passion behind the pro and anti GW crowds. Personally I can't see it.

When discussing 40k, the participants generally never actually talk to each other – they are instead addressing many years worth of old grievances and grudges, and the other side always embodies every single one of those, even when they don't.

I've been on both sides – I was a virulently spiteful ex-GW player for years, and was quick to put down GW, their games, and especially their "ignorant and deluded" fans. Now I'm an ex-ex GW fan (with the associated zealotry that entails).

There are many valid reasons to dislike GW games. There are just as many valid reasons why someone can make an informed decision to continue playing the game and paying Forge World prices.

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