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Edwulf17 Feb 2016 5:43 a.m. PST

Anyone know of an OB for the Spanish. I only have the British.
I'm curious to know which units were Spanish and which units are Argentine/Uraguayans.

allthekingsmen Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 6:15 a.m. PST

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Newly revised and updated for our American Revolution line is our Hessian infantry. All three "flavors," if I can use that metaphor: grenadiers, fusiliers and musketeers. They're available here: link

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Our "first edition" Hessians came in campaign overalls, and were among the very first figures ever offered by ATKM. The new ones have tall gaiters; the iconic Hessian look. The new figures also come as bodies with separate hats. The hats have plugs underneath that insert into the tops of heads.

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Given this new look and format, and that folks have had a chance to get the original troops for some time, the first edition sets have been retired.

The new figures come in their own pre-packaged sets; they're not on our Recruit Your Own Regiment menu. You just choose what type of infantry you want.

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The officer has been re-tooled and re-mastered as well, but remains a one-piece model. His uniform and head in tricorne are useful for all types of regiments, so there didn't seem much reason to separate them.

The ensign figure is a little different. He's also been re-mastered and re-tooled, but his right arm has been made separate so you can give him an open hand for holding a color, or a right arm holding a hunting horn.

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Case in point, our revised jagers. You can see the ensign now in a musician role. The jagers remain one-piece castings since they have always had their own distinct look, and our first edition figures hit it. The models have been re-mastered, however, to make them sharper than ever.

Hessian infantry sets (12 soldiers + 2 command) are $40 USD, while jagers (6 + 2) are $25. USD These unit sizes suit our self-titled All the King's Men wargame rules, but we could work out different head counts if you need. All come unpainted. You can see them and the rest of our AWI offerings here: link

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allthekingsmen Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 6:16 a.m. PST

The bug!

Gone Fishing Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 6:35 a.m. PST

I love these posts.

Beautiful figures in every way. The separate hat idea is one I haven't seen before. Just curious, was that easier than making separate heads? I'd be worried about fit, though must say they look perfect in the photos! Splendid stuff.

allthekingsmen Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 6:52 a.m. PST

Thanks, Daryl! The hats were made specifically to the figures' heads, so fit well. If you're left with any seams, I recommend applying a bead of Elmer's/white/PVA glue with a toothpick along the seam. That will self-level and make any gaps disappear. This is my go-to technique for filling any gaps on figures when parts need assembly, assuming filing or snipping doesn't do the trick.

The musketeer hat has also been made with a notch removed at the corner to accommodate the musket. The hat fits snugly against the gun.

I went with separate hats versus separate heads because the original greens lent themselves best to that approach. The choice was more technical on my end, but hopefully still nets the same results.

Gone Fishing Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 10:25 a.m. PST

Very interesting--thank you.

Just curious, do you have any plans to ever do Indians in metal? Irregular do some nice ones, of course, but more selection never hurts!

allthekingsmen Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 11:07 a.m. PST

I get asked that a lot, and the answer is boringly financial. Drilled and uniform toy soldiers can get away with consistent poses, because consistency is inherent to soldier training, at least in the horse-and-musket period. By contrast, Indians absolutely demand diverse poses to look convincing. That means a lot of money goes into sculpting several different greens (at least 8). Yet that set sells to each collector maybe once or twice. It's therefore difficult to recoup the original costs after all other expenses, unless that set absolutely catches fire and everyone has to have one.

All that doesn't mean to say "No" to a set or original metal Indians from ATKM. But when Armies in Plastic offers plastic castings of the excellent John Jenkins collector Indians… I can't pass up carrying those instead of making my own. Plus they really appeal to me as figures -- arguably the best, affordable Woodland Indians available in 54mm. If for some reason those go away, I will quickly turn to making my own war parties.

Gone Fishing Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 11:37 a.m. PST

Hi Ken,

This is completely understandable. Thank you for the explanation. I totally agree with the comments on AIP/Jenkins, by the way!

D.

Edwulf17 Feb 2016 3:10 p.m. PST

Lovely figures. Not quite what I was talking about lol.

I also seem to have become a supporting member….

Personal logo Who asked this joker Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2016 5:46 p.m. PST

I'm partial to the tall mitre hats but they all look fabulous!

coopman18 Feb 2016 6:28 a.m. PST

Great looking figures Ken.

Part time gamer20 Apr 2017 4:25 a.m. PST

These look amazing.

IF.. If I ever get 'crazy' enough to think my hands are steady enough to paint 28's, Im jumping into ATK with both feet. Ive played a cpl games and really enjoyed it.

But 'integrity demands' me to say, I would go with WL for the mini's. Mainly due to the Fact many yrs ago, I simply got tired of "lugging lead" and now I just stick to my first love of gaming, plastics.

Major William Martin RM24 Apr 2017 8:30 p.m. PST

Part Time Gamer;

These are 54mm figures, not 28's. Average height for an infantryman is app. 2 1/4" +/-.

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