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Personal logo Field Marshal Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2016 4:01 p.m. PST

Hi there,
I just received my parcel from Dom of my Migs to use for Thud Ridge…the 17s I am painting in silver but the mig 21s I am not sure. Is the silver ok for them? What colour should I paint the nose cone?

Leadpusher Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2016 4:21 p.m. PST

Check Wings Pallet.
wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/14/55/0#13

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Feb 2016 4:27 p.m. PST

I thought the 21'a were silver and the 17s were camo.


Thanks,

John

Onomarchos16 Feb 2016 4:43 p.m. PST

All the photos of VNAF Mig-21s I have seen are in natural metal.

Mark

Mike G16 Feb 2016 5:14 p.m. PST

Here are mine.

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Mike

Personal logo Field Marshal Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2016 5:21 p.m. PST

Nice job Mike.
Thanks for the replies

Personal logo Field Marshal Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2016 5:40 p.m. PST

So should I paint the 17s in camo?

Mako1116 Feb 2016 6:37 p.m. PST

Polish with steel wool, and seal with either a satin, or gloss coat, depending upon your desire for the final finish.

Nosecones should be green, or red, depending upon your view of the accuracy of the latter color for the period.

Onomarchos16 Feb 2016 7:09 p.m. PST

Jason,

Many Mig-17s were not camo'ed. However, the 17 had a nickname among US pilots … they called it the 'snake' because of the green camo like you see Mike's models in.

A great reference is Osprey's "Mig-17 and MiG-19 Unites of the Vietnam War."

Mark

Mako1117 Feb 2016 12:34 a.m. PST

Yep, they were called snakes, not only due to the green camo, but also since they liked to attack from "down in the weeds", below the inbound attackers, in order to try to keep from being identified by US radar, for as long as possible.

They'd typically try to engage from below and behind US aircraft flights, where they were hard to see from the aircraft.

GROSSMAN17 Feb 2016 7:34 p.m. PST

Nice work Mike G

Mako1120 Feb 2016 9:32 p.m. PST

To break up the monotony of the all aluminum Mig-21s, you could add a bit of forest green (blue-green) mottling to the wings and fuselage on at least a few of them.

They look pretty good in that scheme too, and some of the silver should show through the green, for a hasty camo. effect.

Risaldar Singh13 May 2016 3:51 p.m. PST

MiG-21 were overwhelmingly left in natural metal, some had mottled green camo painted over the natural metal base and a few ex-East German Air Force were left in very light grey.

Windward29 Jul 2016 11:54 a.m. PST

Depending on the time of the war. Early all 21s are silver, they were painted by '72.

The 17s early on were silver, then slap dash, patterns of green on silver with a lot of silver birds mixed in. Some of the silver birds had red trim, on the top of the tail or around the intake, but they were rare.

So 17s arrived from Russia in the standard Russian paint scheme of dark green over light blue. These can be mixed in freely, but were relatively rare.

By '72 the majority are painted, all sorts of variants of green and brown. Some in the classic "Snake" pattern, but a few silver birds existed as replacements.

Swarmaster1 Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jul 2016 11:35 a.m. PST

Nice MiG-21s and MiG-17s available in 1/300th from MSDGames.com

I agree with the notes from Windward – that matches the references that I have seen to date and most of the photos.

Sundance01 Aug 2016 2:50 p.m. PST

There are also references to the -17s, IIRC, in a purple on mauve scheme similar to the "snake" pattern, and also a blue pattern of some sort.

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