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Old Contemptibles01 Feb 2016 10:40 a.m. PST

…you need to have bases with different number of figures per base…

The basing system in Johnny Reb is crazy. We ended up using 7/8" x 7/8" with four figures per base and varied the number of bases to reflect the size of the unit. Smaller units have smaller frontage. It worked for us for 12 years with no problem. Then I moved to another state and a few of those players freaked out about it.

I thought JR3 would have fixed everything but it didn't and in some ways made it worse.

We finally got fed up with the complicated charge sequence. I have switch to "Mr. Lincoln's War." It just needed to be tweaked a little. Very easy and no rebasing.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP01 Feb 2016 10:43 a.m. PST

Man O' War
Crimefighters (RPG in Dragon Mag)
Heroquest (technically a full game, but still)
Divine Right (board game, yeah, but still)
The various Warmasters, both fantasy and historical. Especially the Medieval Armies book, which can't be had.

Some of these can be found, but a fresh, revised printing is worth doing, IMHO.

PJ ONeill01 Feb 2016 11:33 a.m. PST

Sorry to hijack the OP.
As I said in a previous post, there is no need to rebase anything when going from JRI, JRII (5 bases), JRIII (4), and ADF (2-3). It IS true that using a consistent base size will throw off the historical frontage, but as the discrepancy is 1/2 to 3/4 inches, it does not affect game-play.
Someone who plays F&F would find using the same number of bases for different sized units unheard of.
If you play JR with units having different number of bases, you have to have a mechanic that tracks the # of bases you started with, which leads to rosters. Getting rid of rosters was one of the design intents of JR.
JRIII fixed the frontage and effectiveness of Artillery, got rid of the dreaded "saving rolls" and streamlined many of the "gamey" things people were exploiting to game the mechanics instead of the scenario.
The charge sequence is involved but with familiarity it can be done in 30-40 seconds. I have not been able to streamline it without removing the historical "flavor"
It all comes down to personal taste, what you are familiar with and how you think the game should flow.
Although JRIII and ADF are still my favorite games, the JRIII rules are disorganized.
Different people have different tastes in what they want a game to portray.

Lt Col Pedant01 Feb 2016 1:58 p.m. PST

…and 'Strandhogg'.

Old Contemptibles01 Feb 2016 4:00 p.m. PST

…you have to have a mechanic that tracks the # of bases you started with, which leads to rosters…

You mean OBs which tell you:

1. Chain of command and their benefits.
2. Number of bases per regiment.
3. Morale rating
4. Weapons each regiment has.

I print it up on my computer. It is a tremendous players aid and everyone I have ever gamed with has appreciated it. I don't how you can play JR or most any rules set in any period with out an OB. The scenario rules and map are attached to the OB. If you know how to do it right it will help the game go smoother.

PJ ONeill01 Feb 2016 5:00 p.m. PST

Thanks for the list Rally- my OB usually has the Command, list of regiments and weapons. I suppose we got used to having the other things on your list represented on the table.
I think my post was a knee-jerk reaction to the amount of cheating I have seen done if casualties and morale are on the OB and not visually represented on the unit.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2016 4:59 p.m. PST

Oh….The Quest of Thane Tostig….and if someone could bring back Minot figures as well that would be a bonus !

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Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2016 9:16 p.m. PST

Two by Ed Smith
Tryreme
War of the Roses

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Jemima Fawr05 Feb 2016 10:14 a.m. PST

Seastrike.

USAFpilot05 Feb 2016 6:03 p.m. PST

What, no takers for "empire". Any version will do.

Jemima Fawr07 Feb 2016 10:07 a.m. PST

USAFpilot,

The 'Wargaming Confessions' thread is over there… ;)

Weasel07 Feb 2016 12:07 p.m. PST

The Space Crusade board game from MB with new figures.

docfin07 Feb 2016 1:16 p.m. PST

To Peter at Baccus a range of figures to go with pony wars would be good. I remember playing it with Ian at the club.

Guthroth09 Feb 2016 11:07 a.m. PST

Another vote for GQ1

Charlie 1209 Feb 2016 9:16 p.m. PST

GQ1 is still available direct from Navwar.

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Dexter Ward10 Feb 2016 2:16 a.m. PST

GQ1 is still available, but GQ2 is not.
It would be nice to have that back in print.

Covert Walrus10 Feb 2016 12:26 p.m. PST

Hellfire
Hell BY Daylight
Hell By Starlight
Rogue Trader
Man'O'War

That's my list :)

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