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andysyk14 Jan 2016 6:14 a.m. PST

Which manufacturers Greek Cavalry fit best with Victrix Greeks?

Delbruck Inactive Member14 Jan 2016 9:44 a.m. PST

If you are looking for Greek cavalry before 300 BC Wargames Foundry cavalry from the World of the Greeks & Macedonian ranges should be reasonably compatible.

Mithridates Inactive Member14 Jan 2016 2:35 p.m. PST

As well as Delbruck's suggestion you could look at –

Aventine's Greek cavalry – 3rd century BCE, link

Gorgon's Etruscan cavalry,

I am planning to use Foundry with my hoplites but have the others for various armies.


STEVE LBMS Supporting Member of TMP14 Jan 2016 5:46 p.m. PST

We are looking at doing plastic Greek cavalry if you can hang fire?

The Numidian cavalry will be finished sculpting in the next couple of weeks and then the plan is to work on some more cavalry sets for the Ancients ranges, Greeks being one of them.

If waiting is not an option the above suggestions would work fine. There is a nice thread on Lead adventure forum of a guy doing a superb Greek army using a mix of Victrix and Wargames Foundry figures.




andysyk15 Jan 2016 8:47 a.m. PST

Cheers I will hang fire 6 boxes of foot to paint first.

Mithridates Inactive Member15 Jan 2016 2:35 p.m. PST

Now you are just teasing us Steve!

Hopefully the Greek horse will be along the lines of previous TMP threads – suitable for various armies and periods? So, with the addition of shields and different heads they could be Carthaginians or say later Macedonians?


Delbruck Inactive Member15 Jan 2016 6:03 p.m. PST

I 2nd Mithridates comments.

STEVE LBMS Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2016 5:01 a.m. PST

We are going over the design stage at present for Greek and other cavalry sets for the Punic and Macedonian ranges.

Adding Later Hellenistic helmets and large round shields would certainly give them a broader time span of use.

Not so sure you would use them as Carthaginian cavalry? dress and equipment is quite a bit different. I think they warrant their own separate set.


Delbruck Inactive Member16 Jan 2016 5:40 a.m. PST

Looking at WRG "Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars" I don't see a lot of difference between the equipment of 47 (Hellenistic xystophoros), 53 (Bactrian cavalry), 99 (Carthaginian cavalry), and 140 (Roman cavalry). All have sold breastplate, pteruges, and short sleeved tunics. The Carthaginian tunic might be a little longer, but this isn't very noticeable on cavalry. The only real difference I noticed was the footwear. The Hellenistic cavalry has boots, everyone else has sandals. I don't think this is a big deal. If the cavalryman has bindings on the ankle for the sandals these can be painted to resemeble boots.

Delbruck Inactive Member16 Jan 2016 8:41 a.m. PST

Steve, are you familiar with the Perry British Light Dragoon box? There are enough parts for three different versions of the dragoons.

Here is my suggestion for the Hellenistic cavalry box. It assumes 12 per box. Six are complete torsos and legs and six are split at the waist.

Six torsos complete with legs in plate corselet and pteruges.
Three legs set (waist down) with pteruges.
Three legs set without pteruges (tunic only).
3-6 upper body in plate corslet.
3 upper body in tunic only (no armor).
(optionally 3 additional upper body in mail corslet)
Plus, separate heads (at least three without helmet), arms, shields and weapons.

STEVE LBMS Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2016 8:57 a.m. PST

Hi Delbruck,

Yes the Perry Light Dragoons set is a really lovely box.

Doing the set like you have just suggested is quite a lot more expensive to make for us. The Perry twins don't have to consider sculpting cost but we do unfortunately. It works out better for us to do a Greek/later Hellenistic cavalry set. Carthaginian/Liby-Phoenician cavalry set and a Companions/Thessalian/Later Companions/Agema set.

There are still enough parts for variety plus 3 product sets. They take less time to sculpt, layup and tool and get the money invested returned to us quicker.

The way we are doing things with our latest sets mean we are on for getting 6 to 7 sets out a year unlike the 2 to 4 it was taking before.


wargame insomniac Inactive Member16 Jan 2016 8:57 a.m. PST

Victrix Greek Cavalry will be great news.

Mithridates Inactive Member16 Jan 2016 3:19 p.m. PST

Thanks for the heads up Steve. Sounds like we have a plan!

It is good to know what is on the horizon, in the meantime I can get on and finish other things. Plenty in the pile to work on.

Now, any chance of Achaemenid Persians to go with the Greeks – maybe for 2017?


Longstrider Inactive Member17 Jan 2016 10:07 p.m. PST

That you guys are up to 6-7 its a year is fantastic news. I really like your ancients range and am really jonesing for some cavalry. I gather the Iberians are coming soon – any word on whether you're considering doing Celts/Gauls/Britons or if they might wait till after the Samnites? And I hear there's some Macedonian pikes somewhere in the offing too.

In any case, that cavalry arrangement sounds quite nice. It's just what I need to kickstart me into getting some Carthginians going to face down my Romans, and if you get those two Greek/Hellenistic sets done alongside pikes, we can get most of the major troop types for Successors from you guys in plastic, which is a lot easier on the shoulders!

All of which is to say: hurry up. :P (I guess it'll be easier to justify if people are buying more stuff, so I should probably just get started without waiting around for complete ranges) – not like I paint that many figures a month anyway!

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