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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Dec 2015 2:02 p.m. PST

Are you a Star Trek miniature wargamer?

Micman Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2015 2:04 p.m. PST

Yes!

15mm and 28mm Fanatik22 Dec 2015 2:06 p.m. PST

Only with redshirts.

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut22 Dec 2015 2:07 p.m. PST

Not yet. Some say I will find appropriate 28mm Away Team figures that I like enough to start.

Gear Pilot22 Dec 2015 2:08 p.m. PST

Yes, with starships.

Dan 05522 Dec 2015 2:08 p.m. PST

For fleet actions I am.

boy wundyr x22 Dec 2015 2:10 p.m. PST

Yes (or more properly, "I will be once I paint things") – both starships and 15mm.

Graycat22 Dec 2015 2:11 p.m. PST

Only in the distant past. When I told my friends I was moving to a job with Star Fleet, they exclaimed, "Amarillo!!!???"

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Dec 2015 2:14 p.m. PST

Yes, Starships are my bag, baby!

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Louie N22 Dec 2015 2:30 p.m. PST

Yes

Norrins22 Dec 2015 2:38 p.m. PST

Yes. Starships and miniatures.

Sergeant Paper22 Dec 2015 2:41 p.m. PST

Gotta paint my away teams.

GeoffQRF22 Dec 2015 3:05 p.m. PST

Curious by away teams… This role playing or something else?

Mako1122 Dec 2015 3:26 p.m. PST

Yes, but need ground troops.

David Manley22 Dec 2015 3:27 p.m. PST

yes, for the last 25 years or so

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2015 3:30 p.m. PST

If you want big fleets… link *cough*shamelessplug*cough*

For some excellent TOS-inspired 15mm miniatures, check out Matt Alleman's site:

astrominiatures.blogspot.com

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2015 3:51 p.m. PST

Yes, though fairly sporadically.

Yesthatphil22 Dec 2015 4:02 p.m. PST

No … Have played one though …

Phil

Cosmic Reset22 Dec 2015 4:04 p.m. PST

yes, with starships, not dudes.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian22 Dec 2015 4:13 p.m. PST

Yes

tmason22 Dec 2015 4:27 p.m. PST

Yep. Star ships and Full Thrust
link

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2015 4:32 p.m. PST

Like javelin98, a shameless plug (for rules, not minis): thegobspage.com
So I guess you could say, "yes." grin

NCC171722 Dec 2015 4:47 p.m. PST

Yes.

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45thdiv22 Dec 2015 4:49 p.m. PST

No, I don't play any star trek. But the office where I work is at the space center on warp drive. :-)

Mako1122 Dec 2015 6:01 p.m. PST

NCC1717, I have a few questions, since I'm interested in trying out your rules for fleet actions.

I see from the following examples, that it appears the first line is for shields being up, and the second line is for shields being down (presumably the second line also represents hull strength remaining too).

Starship's log example of progressive damage (DN):
3 2 1 0 0 0 0 Crippled Destroyed
0 1 2 3 2 1 0

Starship's log example of progressive damage (DD):
1 0 0 Crippled Destroyed
0 1 0

So, based upon the above, it seems the following charts would apply to the CAs, and Scouts(?):

Starship's log example of progressive damage (Fed CA & D7):
2 1 0 0 0 Crippled Destroyed
0 1 2 1 0

Starship's log example of progressive damage (Scout & Frigate – just like the DDs?):
1 0 0 Crippled Destroyed
0 1 0

When are vessels considered to be crippled, and/or destroyed, e.g. when their bottom stat line reaches zero, or only after the last zero of the bottom line is crossed off?

Can you provide an example of damage vs. one of the vessels, so I can see how the hits applied to it should be checked off?

Do all shields need to be down for firing all weapons?

Finally, any thoughts of creating stats and weapons charts for a Gorn fleet?

Calico Bill22 Dec 2015 6:26 p.m. PST

Yes, but Starships only and not as often as I'd like.

Mute Bystander22 Dec 2015 6:41 p.m. PST

Definitely not!

Dynaman878922 Dec 2015 7:19 p.m. PST

No, but I play Star Fleet Battles with good old cardboard. Used to play FASA's Star Trek role playing game too.

Lion in the Stars22 Dec 2015 7:28 p.m. PST

Used to play SFB with cardboard.

Planning on 15mm ground ops.

Might do minis with Federation Commander.

Bravo Six22 Dec 2015 7:45 p.m. PST

"Yes, Starships are my bag, baby!"

I knew John was going to answer that way. ;)

-B6

Florida Tory22 Dec 2015 7:49 p.m. PST

I haven't played a Star Trek game since the early computer game played on TSO terminals.

Rick

NCC171722 Dec 2015 7:54 p.m. PST

Mako11,

The log examples are not actually two lines, just one line of fractions (e.g., 3/0, 2/1). Initially the DN has three shields up and none down (3/0). After one hit it has two up and one down (2/1). You are correct about the form of the logs for the CA/D7 with two shields and the Scout/F5 with one shield.

The DN would be crippled by seven hits and destroyed by eight, assuming no opportunity to put shields back up. The fourth hit on a DN (from 0/3 to 0/2) is the first permanent damage, in that the destroyed shield cannot be put back up thereafter.

Note that a ship at full speed can only have one shield up, which for a DN is effectively the same as having two hits.

All weapons can be fired with all shields up.

I don't have fleets of Gorn (just two ADB models), so I didn't consider them for the fleet rules.

I hope this helps.

JSchutt22 Dec 2015 8:34 p.m. PST

Star Trek Crawl!
Redshirts! convention gaming using modified Decipher Games Star Trek RPG rules.

picture

redjak.com blog2

Mako1122 Dec 2015 10:02 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info and clarifications, NC1717.

I really appreciate it.

tnjrp23 Dec 2015 12:31 a.m. PST

No. My landing party troops do tend to die like redshirts tho, even if they are better protected and armed. So maybe Starfleet has a point: why put armour and guns on 'em gruntz since they're gonna croak anyway.

Martin Rapier23 Dec 2015 5:36 a.m. PST

No, although I used to play SFB.

Huscarle23 Dec 2015 6:07 a.m. PST

I used to play Lou Zocci's SFBM link & the aforementioned SFB way back, still got them hidden away somewhere. However, much preferred SFBM to SFB, as did my giant space cat grin

Only Warlock23 Dec 2015 7:10 a.m. PST

picture

Yes.

svsavory23 Dec 2015 7:18 a.m. PST

I own several of the Wizkids' Attack Wing ships. Used to play a lot, now I'm just more of a collector.

Ghostrunner23 Dec 2015 8:50 a.m. PST

Yes.

Using Wizkids Attack wing ships for Federation Commander.

I've been re-working the SSDs so systems aren't so scattered around the ships (all transporters in one group, etc.), and setting them up so the ADB races are replaced by the canon races from the various sources:

Federation/Klingon/Romulan/Gorn/Tholian = Unchanged (but new ship backgrounds)
Kzinti = Vulcan
Lyran = Cardassian
Hydran = Dominion
Andromedan = Borg
ISC = Breen

No real difference in gameplay, just means the alliances from ADB's universe are a little chopped up, but I don't play huge games very often.

Garand23 Dec 2015 9:33 a.m. PST

Yes, using Star Fleet Battles: A Call to Arms. Played SFB a few times in the past, thought about picking up FC, though ACTA is about where I want it for space gaming…

Damon.

Lion in the Stars23 Dec 2015 10:04 a.m. PST

Curious by away teams… This role playing or something else?
In my case, 15mm ground combat with Tomorrow's War, though I suppose I could just as easily use Infinity for a smaller exploration party.

Norrins23 Dec 2015 1:44 p.m. PST

I use 5150: Star Navy for fleet battles – link

&

Pulp Alley for miniature gaming – link

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP23 Dec 2015 6:52 p.m. PST

No.

skippy000124 Dec 2015 12:32 p.m. PST

Fed Commander-both minis and cardboard

Howler25 Dec 2015 10:26 p.m. PST

Yes, enjoyed the FASA rules

tkdguy26 Dec 2015 1:05 a.m. PST

I used to play the FASA starship combat game a long time ago, but these days I prefer gaming in my own universe.

Dasher02 May 2016 3:25 p.m. PST

I use Johnny Lightning ships to play a homebrew version of Full Thrust in the original series' setting.

And I had a roleplaying campaign I tried to run, but everybody wanted Star Wars.

Part time gamer04 Jun 2016 12:06 a.m. PST

I love the ship combat pics. Thanks.

Generally unless I run a solo game, they are very few and yrs between.
TOS period is the best. That show spoiled me.

I love ADB's ST mini's, the "2400 series", especially Zocchi's plastic Feds. If only' he had done the Klingons as well.
I have come up with my own "light cruiser", customizing his platic tug. Have also had some luck converting the DN into the DNH by cutting, repositioining the engines.

Does anyone recall "Task Force Games Elite" line? Basically all but the Gorn ships were only about 1 inch long. The series numbers started w 5000, so I refered to them as; the 5000 series.
Bought a dozen+ of them and did a lot of converting.

If I can figure out how to post pics, I'd be glad too. Computers not my thing sorry.

Shapeways does some realy nice ones. but you Have to measure the size (not scale) of the miniatures you use, so they match up.
IF I get any from shapeway, I "think" those listed as 4000 scale would work best with ADB.

Captain Gideon04 Jun 2016 7:52 a.m. PST

I play using the FASA rules mostly and since I have mostly FASA miniatures mostly but I also have some of the Star Fleet Battles miniatures as well I think I have between 100 and 200 minis.

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