| nevinsrip | 22 Dec 2015 2:48 a.m. PST |
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| nevinsrip | 22 Dec 2015 2:49 a.m. PST |
TIMELOCK AGAIN ARRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH |
| nevinsrip | 22 Dec 2015 2:55 a.m. PST |
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| nevinsrip | 22 Dec 2015 2:59 a.m. PST |
Who doesn't love a good TIMELOCK? I'm putting this up on the ACW boards also under another name.
I would have cross posted to several boards, but the TIMLOCK
Monster got me. |
| historygamer | 22 Dec 2015 5:37 a.m. PST |
Does not look 18th or 19th century to me. It looks European. Stucco siding, tile roof. |
| zippyfusenet | 22 Dec 2015 7:01 a.m. PST |
Oh. Ah. Traditionally, US Southern architecture was wooden, including the big plantation mansions. Even the porticos and pillars were wood. So, not this. As historygamer notes, this one is stucco and stone. Only two big chimneys, so I'm guessing it's centrally heated. Not fortified. Could be mid-19th to early-20th century, something a successful banker or brewer would put up in Cincinnati or St. Louis. They didn't build many like this after 1933 – there was a depression, and then after the recovery you couldn't get servants anymore. I think a building of this size and opulence in England or Europe prior to the early 19th century would have had some fortification features. Use it for pulp genres – Prohibition wars, Eldritch Horror, Second American Civil War, Martian Front? Or somewhat of the same era in Europe? |
| zippyfusenet | 22 Dec 2015 7:02 a.m. PST |
Look at that entrance. There's a ballroom on the ground floor. A southern mansion would have some kind of portico, a place for the family and guests to hang out in the shade. |
| Supercilius Maximus | 22 Dec 2015 8:48 a.m. PST |
With all the bars on the windows, it looks like a sanitorium. |
| historygamer | 22 Dec 2015 9:31 a.m. PST |
That's just crazy talk. :-) |
| Bill N | 22 Dec 2015 11:45 a.m. PST |
If you look at Mount Vernon and nearby Carlyle House in Alexandria, Virginia, you will see something vaguely similar. I've also learned "never say never" when it comes to prototypes. Small window panes would be appropriate for earlier eras, and Mount Vernon shows builders could obtain interesting effects on wooden structures. Still this strikes me as a European structure. |
| Early morning writer | 22 Dec 2015 12:10 p.m. PST |
All of the above plus the roof just doesn't match the building. I'd say rework it with wood cladding – and replace the roof! Then you can use it for both AWI and ACW. |
| Who asked this joker | 22 Dec 2015 1:50 p.m. PST |
The heavy framing on the windows, I'd bet it was supposed to be somewhere in hurricane country…Florida or Louisiana or something. Even with the European feel, that could still be Louisiana. I like it just fine. Well done! |
| nevinsrip | 22 Dec 2015 3:07 p.m. PST |
I gt this from John The Greater: I don't know if it is a specific house, but there are plenty just like it in the Piedmont region, say Virginia to North Georgia. It would make a perfect AWI plantation house.
Okay, now I am more confused than ever.
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| nevinsrip | 22 Dec 2015 3:11 p.m. PST |
As for the thick window bars, remember this was built at least back in the 80's, when scratchbuilding materials were not so precise or available. That looks like a piece of punched sheet plastic (maybe a flyswatter) to me, that was cut up and used on every window. That's what we used back then. What happened to the London Wargames Room? |
| Old Contemptibles | 22 Dec 2015 8:57 p.m. PST |
Looks mid-19th Century French. Second Empire style, great for the FPW, WWI and WW2. Might be Regency style, which is earlier but still European. The roof maybe a different style, it doesn't really look like it belongs. I would do some image searches for based on different styles. It looks to have features of a Italian or French Palladian revival architecture.Could be a revival of early styles, built 1900 to 1930. Kind of a mishmash of styles. Send a pic to a university architecture department and see if they can ID it. Try the National Building Museum. nbm.org The more I look at it, the more I am thinking English country home. |
| Old Contemptibles | 22 Dec 2015 9:04 p.m. PST |
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| historygamer | 22 Dec 2015 9:40 p.m. PST |
It might look better if it wasn't painted blue. Haven't seen too many blue buildings in my day, at least here in the states. |
| nazrat | 23 Dec 2015 6:54 a.m. PST |
From what I remember Vince had a sort of mid-life melt down and ran off leaving his spouse and the business cold. His wife sold off almost everything to various companies. It was really sad because I thought he was a good guy and I loved dealing with both of them. |
| Early morning writer | 23 Dec 2015 7:30 p.m. PST |
Nazrat has it right. His wife posted a goodbye message somewhere that I read where she stated he'd essentially abandoned both her and the business. A lot of really cool figures from them – that I'd thankfully bought most of what I'd wanted before he went down his rabbit hole. Rallynow's link shows mostly English country houses – and lot of contemporary ones. I still say that roof is just wrong – maybe adapted from something else to this 'newer' model. Maybe but a small wall around it to make it work as is? And I don't mind the blue but I do think it wouldn't fit well in the period. |
| nevinsrip | 23 Dec 2015 8:33 p.m. PST |
I put out several feelers for Vince. Hopefully, one will pan out. |
| Rawdon | 24 Dec 2015 11:30 a.m. PST |
The roof is clearly European if before about 1900. This roof style came into use in the UK during the 20th century. The stucco also makes it out of character for AWI or ACW. |
| Musketier | 26 Dec 2015 7:33 a.m. PST |
To my untrained eye it looks modelled on London Georgian terraces, especially with the basement kitchen and store (behind the railings): not sure a country mansion with space around it would have a need for those? |
| Ottoathome | 26 Dec 2015 7:53 a.m. PST |
It'll do fine for what you wish, though obviously a bit out of scale for the figures. That it is scratch-built I can attest to. I can identify a lot of the elements as from well known hobby supplies. The tile roof is styrene sheet from Evergreen Co. or Plastruct Inc. or similar and looks like "O" scale Same with windows and the rest. Many of the criticisms of it would be valid ---- were we model railroaders. But we are gamers and terrain for us is to be evocative, not realistic. A real Southern mansion, in scale would dwarf the table top. especially if you put on stables, barns, and slave cabins. Wargame terrain must be far more like stage scenery in an opera or a play. Two or three flat trees represent a forest, a few panels a wall or ruin etc. As such the house is fine. Like stage scenery it merely illustrates the stage on which the drama of the game is acted out. |
| 42flanker | 26 Dec 2015 8:21 a.m. PST |
With those massive ashlar corner stones and window cills, it looks C17th- C18th in style and with the stucco smacks more of northern French or Low Countries provincial. When money was being spent on large houses in Britain during that period, it produced the Queen Anne style and Georgian Neo-classical. As somebody has pointed out the roof is definitely not historical British. Not southern British any way.. If it had crow step gables it could pass for Scottish east coast with Ditch or Hanseatic influence. But it doesnae. That door way with the escutcheon is very specific-gain European (Or Scottish). The mullion windows do make it look older rather than later. |
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