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Crucible Orc Inactive Member16 Dec 2015 9:02 a.m. PST

I'm making my own Prussian flags using photoshop. it's not a particularly easy task when all my reference material is web based.(currently unemployed and don't have resources to get better sources)

my first attempt at 2 prussian flags;
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Personal logo reeves lk Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2015 9:22 a.m. PST

I got a guy in my gamming group who makes great flags for every period we game. He has a Apple Computer. I don't know if it has better software to do that kind of stuff but I have not bought flags in years.

Rod MacArthur16 Dec 2015 9:27 a.m. PST

In answer to the query on your website regarding what flags 3rd battalions of Prussian Regiments carried, it is my understanding that only the musketeer battalions (1st and 2nd) carried flags. The 3rd (fusilier) battalion did not.

Rod

C M DODSON16 Dec 2015 9:52 a.m. PST

Hello.

I would recommend you visit this site and save yourself a lot of trouble.

warflag.com napflags

Happy modelling,

Chris

Crucible Orc Inactive Member16 Dec 2015 10:18 a.m. PST

CM dodson,
the big problem with warflag is the low resolution. when i print them off i think they look horrible. the resolution of the graphics is just too low to work with in 28mm.

Rod:

I had forgotten about the Fusiliers. that makes sense then.

Ligniere Sponsoring Member of TMP Inactive Member16 Dec 2015 10:23 a.m. PST

@Crucible
The work you've done looks great – if you have a good printer, I'd say you're onto a winner – well done!

von Winterfeldt16 Dec 2015 10:36 a.m. PST

the colours look good, some usefull links

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and get in touch with Dallas Gavan

Crucible Orc Inactive Member16 Dec 2015 2:42 p.m. PST

Ligniere,

thanks. I do have a decent printer. I always print them myself.

Crucible Orc Inactive Member16 Dec 2015 3:19 p.m. PST

got another quick question.

how early is it likely to have reserve infantry in mostly Regular infantry uniforms. I've read that they were given regular army uniforms as they were made available(to replace the grey uniforms with caps or British made ones) but I've seen no mention of when that started to occur. just wondering as I don't really want to have to buy metal reserve infantry lol.

summerfield16 Dec 2015 3:40 p.m. PST

This is a complex picture. The cadre were in the uniform of the Stamm regiment. The officers were normally in regular uniform. The Grey Reserve uniform were being replaced by August 1813.
Stephen

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2015 4:09 p.m. PST

C_Orc, I sent an e-mail to the hotmail address on your blog.

Cheers.

Dal.

von Winterfeldt17 Dec 2015 12:14 a.m. PST

"how early is it likely to have reserve infantry in mostly Regular infantry uniforms."

Not that likley in 1813 / 14 – check out Dr. Summerfields books on that complex topic

Musketier Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2015 4:12 a.m. PST

"Just wondering as I don't really want to have to buy metal reserve infantry lol."

Unfortunately, replacing the reserve uniforms was a slow process. I understand that for the 1815 campaign, more ex-reserve regiments would have been in more-or-less uniform clothing than was thought a decade or two ago. To the end of 1814 however, those battalions would have presented quite a motley appearance.

One way around the problem, if you're not too picky, could be to paint your plastic line infantry in grey, since the coatee's tails are mostly obscured by equipment anyway, and beg, borrow or steal extra peaked caps to mix in?

summerfield17 Dec 2015 5:23 a.m. PST

You can have an ecclectic mix with Landwehr uniforms especially in the short Kurtka rather than Litewka. Even Line regiments had great variations even to 1815. The new uniforms were not available until July 1815 at least.
Stephen

marshalGreg17 Dec 2015 8:14 a.m. PST

Crucible sorry to here about the unemployment situation!
Never good, been there myself.

Here is a link you look at carfully.
The flag resolution will not suit you but the take away is
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that the 1806 pattern flags used by regiments 1, 2,5,6,7, 10 & 11 along with some GREN BATTALIONs PLUS 1ST FOOT GUARDS AND PART OF THE SECOND had a different eagle from the seven years war period. You might want to search for good examples and incorperate.
The other item is which units had what style ( pre 1806 vs post) during the 1812 actions and on to 1815.

For the res units I just picked a period of interest and went with the information for it. I picked the late 1813 so many have the British/Portuguese, some french captured, remaining in grey styles or mix.
Second Summerfields book.
The other is here with rather good but expensive plates.
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My res units with officer, drummer and NCOs in the regular infantry uniform and troops in the British/Portuguese/french/grey/ or mixed
MG

jwebster17 Dec 2015 5:03 p.m. PST

Hi Crucible – good luck on the employment front.

I have only just started to look at flags, but 15mm so I think resolution is going to be OK

You could try uprezzing the images and then sharpen. At the minimum that would give you outlines that you could then correct etc. by hand. That's what I did with the one flag I have tried so far. I also pushed the contrast to get the colours brighter

I see that you weren't using a pure black – is this to emulated folds in the flag/waving in the wind ? What I have been experimenting with is making the flag flat and then using an overlay layer that just modifies the original flag to make creases and so on. Haven't actually printed out anything yet.

Would love to hear your photoshop experiences

Thanks

John

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