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WarWizard10 Dec 2015 12:54 p.m. PST

It has been kind of dull around here lately. Are there any personal attacks going on that I missed?
If someone is not offended by a personal attack, then I do not see a problem. I have never felt offended by anything I have ever read on TMP. But then again, I am very easy going. And personal attack would not change my perspective anyway.

Winston Smith10 Dec 2015 1:03 p.m. PST

I feel the "personal attack" penalty should only be applied if the "offended party" hits the complaint button. [!]
And even then, Dear Editor in Chief should usually just tell the micro aggressed-against to take a chill pill.

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2015 1:20 p.m. PST

I would just eliminate the penalty altogether. Some people are just more sensitive than others. You can't hardly tell a joke anymore without the PC police coming in full tactical gear to take you away.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Dec 2015 1:49 p.m. PST

I don't have a problem with this suggestion…but perhaps there should also be an adder-on with "as long as the poster doesn't keep repeating the same pointless saying/mantra over and over again"…..

Cyrus the Great10 Dec 2015 1:56 p.m. PST

It should and I posted such under the Free Kyoteblue topic.

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut10 Dec 2015 2:26 p.m. PST

My proposal for everyone to put on their big boy pants, abolish the Dawghouse, and make frequent use of stifle/ignore would solve the situation in a much more mature fashion.

Mako1110 Dec 2015 2:28 p.m. PST

I agree with punkrabbit.

However, if that isn't instituted, don't do the "crime" if you don't wanna do the time.

wrgmr110 Dec 2015 6:38 p.m. PST

I agree with kyoteblue. Seems reasonable enough, as long as it does not go on. Some of us don't worry about internet jibes.

A sea that raged no more11 Dec 2015 12:04 a.m. PST

I wonder whether the better option is that there should be a TMP penitence card issued to TMP members that can be used as a kind of 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card for when they commit an outrage on the forums but either they do not want to spend time wallowing in the Dawghouse or (even worse) have their account Locked. They just want to kinda say… sorry? They would have to pay another subscription charge to get a replacement penitence card.

I don't think this bright idea has ever been suggested before …and accepted.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2015 3:09 a.m. PST

VERY liberal appliaction of death penalty solved everything.

I mean if everybody are dead, nobody can do anything wrong.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Dec 2015 7:17 a.m. PST

I disagree because the target of the attack is not the only person affected by the attack.

I engage pretty much daily in such "friendly banter" with members/retired members of other Services or other specialties within my former Service (as well as people from a rival alma mater, different profession, location, etc., and just people I have known for a long time). Occasionally, that bleeds over to the bleep arena. And I am happy to take as well as I dish out without offense. And I am genuinely impressed when someone puts a new twist on such interaction as opposed to the same old ones that we all have heard and said many times over.

But I do that in a controlled environment. I wouldn't say the same thing about, say, a former Marine that I work with in the middle of a grade school cafeteria, or yell it across a bar filled with people I don't know. It is not just insulting and offensive taken out of context (the context of a personal discussion among friends), but like anything taken out of context, it loses its meaning.

This is a public forum. There are invisible people here reading for whom you can't account.

RavenscraftCybernetics11 Dec 2015 8:38 a.m. PST

What if the opposite is true? an comment i missunderstood and taken as a personal attack.
goose/gander kettle meet pot?

Mute Bystander11 Dec 2015 10:10 a.m. PST

Has the rule changed or did Bill just grant clemency? I am not sure the rule has actually changed.

The rule, like all rules, has a reason but can be abused and in today's third party grievance culture here in the West that is the norm. And yet even that has some relevance.

If, in talking to an Italian in a public setting , some one shouts "All you (negative adjective) Dagoes…" [ link ] in a vituperative verbal attack how does someone of Spanish descent not feel the attack personally? Especially if it is not clear about the specific individual who is being attacked?

When some one makes a disparaging comment to me using "Beaner" as an insult (happens less now that I am away from California) I try not to laugh at their ethnic ignorance but if they are referring to my Mexican-American Cousins then it upsets me.

Hence the availability of the "!" button. Let Bill sort it out.

Personal "insult humor" should be displayed in private IMO. YMMV.

Weasel11 Dec 2015 1:33 p.m. PST

Instead of this complex system, every day, the Editor randomly bans 3 accounts.

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