thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 7:31 a.m. PST |
So here's my question, I'm only aware of 40mm historical, does anyone think there's a market for 40mm scifi/cyberpunk/necromunda style minis for skirmish games |
WarWizard | 10 Dec 2015 7:42 a.m. PST |
If it is a skirmish game, I think that would be great. GW came out with this a few years ago. I forget what they called it. The figures were excellent, but the price of them was insane, IMHO. Problem is, if they are character type figures as opposed to rank and file, the manufacturer has to charge more per figure, cause gamer is only going to buy one of each. You know what I mean? |
thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 7:48 a.m. PST |
Inquisitor: the game gw forgot |
dampfpanzerwagon | 10 Dec 2015 8:01 a.m. PST |
I've been collecting the figures for years….. link
Tony |
haywire | 10 Dec 2015 8:12 a.m. PST |
Inquisitor was 54mm, not 40mm |
thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 8:25 a.m. PST |
That flash Gordon stuff is very cool! Also since haywire corrected us, I'll throw out the same question for 54mm. Is there a market for 54mm scifi? Inquisitor made like a dozen figures and was abandoned 6 months in as far as I remember. |
Gone Fishing | 10 Dec 2015 8:53 a.m. PST |
I think it's a great idea, but unfortunately your choices will be rather limited. As Tony pointed out, there are the old Graven Images figures, but they are hard to get hold of these days--you might contact Alan at Hoka Hey games and see what he has available. hokaheywargaming.co.uk He is a very nice, communicative guy who I know is trying to get the sculpts back in circulation. As ever, there is also Irregular: link Science-Fiction&pid=17&subid=542 Unfortunately there are few photos on the new website, and if you are looking for grittier Sci-Fi they won't help much. Hope this helps, and good luck with your search! |
WarWizard | 10 Dec 2015 9:21 a.m. PST |
That's right Inquisitor was 54mm thanks. |
dampfpanzerwagon | 10 Dec 2015 11:05 a.m. PST |
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thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 11:07 a.m. PST |
Daryl you misunderstand, I'm not looking for them I'm asking if there would be a market for new ones to be created |
thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 11:15 a.m. PST |
That robogear stuff is definitely in the same vein as what I was thinking about |
Pictors Studio | 10 Dec 2015 12:28 p.m. PST |
The problems with Inquisitor were many and varied. One was the different scale of the game and it was more of a problem of building terrain for it that suited the feel of the game. People had their 40K terrain and were now being asked to build it over again. The rules were needlessly complex in parts, like the weapon range charts. And it didn't have points really. So people were baffled how to play it. It straddled the line of RPG and miniature game and wasn't really either and people didn't understand it. I say all of this because, while they didn't sell great, the figures still sold. Because they were gorgeous. Now if you solve those problems, give us a game with either very simple to build terrain or on stuff we already have, like trees, which are sort of scaleless. You make it a miniature game and you make it complex enough but not too complex, you might create a demand for your figures in either 54 or 40mm. |
thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 1:06 p.m. PST |
I'm torn. On one hand, I feel like no one wants to start a new scale. On the other I feel like if you put out something cool lots will jump on it, different scale or not. I just don't know. I guess it depends on how much stuff gets made,right? Lots of figures, accessories, and terrain, the more there is, the more likely people get on board. |
Extra Crispy | 10 Dec 2015 2:35 p.m. PST |
A while back there was a very cool Fantasy game in 40mm called Mindstalkers. The company produced a ton of sculpts and made terrain to go with it (the terrain was heroic so would even work with 28mm). They had a starter box, a nice rule book and cool t-shirts and other swag. Could not give those damn things away, even though everyone drooled over how cool they were. |
thorr666 | 10 Dec 2015 4:01 p.m. PST |
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Lion in the Stars | 10 Dec 2015 7:21 p.m. PST |
The big problem with 54mm or 40mm scifi is terrain. You're going to have what, 4-10 figures per side, and your scifi terrain will not be compatible/usable with anything else. Well, forests may be usable for other things, but that's about it. It's why probably half the people playing Inquisitor ended up using their existing 28mm minis. |
GamesPoet | 10 Dec 2015 8:15 p.m. PST |
Forests, hills, water, jungle, craters, boulders, sci-fi terrain formations, etc. are all relatively easy for 40mm. City scapes could be a challenge. However, there are other obstacles, like space, preceptions of what 40mm is and is not, hobby goals and priorities, having other players as readily available as there are for other scales, etc. |
MajorB | 11 Dec 2015 3:38 p.m. PST |
And it didn't have points really. So people were baffled how to play it. Really?? You amaze me. People couldn't work out how to play it becasue it didn't have points? |
Lion in the Stars | 11 Dec 2015 7:40 p.m. PST |
Yes, really. Remember, we're talking about GW gamers here, folks who quite possibly have NEVER played a game that didn't have points. Hell, even D&D has something of a points system (character levels). It was a pain trying to more-or-less balance things between two forces for a one-off game instead of a running campaign game. Another major problem was the low variety of GW minis produced. |
Capt Flash | 12 Dec 2015 7:22 p.m. PST |
Inquisitor was exactly what it was described to be, scenario based, narrative war gaming. The game, while complex, was loads of fun. Terrain was the big reason it did not do well where I'm located. That being said, I have a huge collection of Inquisitor minis. And for anyone considering to build a few models, 40K heavy weapons and Ork arms and bits are just about perfect for the Inquisitor models… |