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Prince Alberts Revenge30 Nov 2015 7:41 p.m. PST

How much combat did dragoons see during King Philip's War? I noticed Brigade Games has some splendid looking figures in their range on the war. I found some accounts of Gold' s Dragoons, were there any other bodies of horse? Do we know if any of these units were uniformed? Thanks so much!

John the OFM30 Nov 2015 7:50 p.m. PST

I would think they would be nothing more than militia that could barely sit on a horse.
Calling them "dragoons" would be a charity. "Mounted infantry" would be much more accurate. But as cavalry or "horse"? Probably not.

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2015 8:21 p.m. PST

Perhaps someone at Brigade Games could point in the right direction regarding this? Maybe they can provide what reference material is available on them.

Personal logo BrigadeGames Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Dec 2015 12:00 p.m. PST

Some research goes a long way to explaining why we did the dragoons/mounted infantry.

Yes, there is the reference to Gold's Dragoons. There are also references to "troops of mounted dragoons" or "troops mounted as dragoons" under Captain's Henchmen, Moseley, Wadsworth, Brattle, Newberry, etc. References regarding the following from kpwar.org indicate a higher level of sophistication than just mounted militia for some "dragoons." Additionally, the second reference shows that Connecticut provisioned 500 dragoons in 1673 for possible service against the Dutch. This is probably the reason for the better state of preparedness of the CT dragoons.

"The Second Battle of Nipsachuck illustrates the evolution in the complexity, sophistication, and effectiveness of English tactics (particularly among Connecticut's dragoon companies) as well as the aggressive attack and pursuit strategy employed by Connecticut forces throughout the war. Connecticut was the first colony to field fully integrated units of Colonial and Native soldiers throughout the war; a strategy that greatly contributed to the overall success of Connecticut's King Philip's War."

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"August 14th, 1673, with the prospect of a war with the Dutch, the Court ordered that the respective Troops in the colony, with "500 Dragoones, be prepared and fitted for service forthwith."

The majority appear that they would be mounted militia armed with used as dragoons, meaning they would typically move to the action and typically dismount to fire. However, most were armed with swords and hatchets as well.

References are in several books, including:

King Philip's War: Based on the Archives and Records of Massachusetts, Plymouth, Rhode Island and Connecticut, and Contemporary Letters and Accounts, with Biographical and Topographical Notes

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kpwar.org/archeology

and many others.

And for the link to the webstore for the figures:

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redmist112201 Dec 2015 12:59 p.m. PST

…well there ya go! Awesome response…I notice there is a Pilgrim Pack III available…I bought the first two a while ago, may have to place an order for the third one…thanks Lon.

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Personal logo BrigadeGames Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Dec 2015 1:04 p.m. PST

Thanks.

The Praying Indians pack and the two mounted dragoons packs are new as of earlier last month.

Prince Alberts Revenge01 Dec 2015 6:25 p.m. PST

Lon, thanks for the post…very informative. When I made my initial purchase of these figs, I think there were only two packs of each. I will have to see if I own the Indian and Pilgrim "III" packs. Definitely want those dragoons now.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2015 6:48 a.m. PST

Great response.

in plumbum nos fides13 Dec 2015 7:19 p.m. PST

I have been studying and gaming KPW for several years. If your looking for cavalry charges and artillery this isn't your period. If you like large scale skirmishes, then you'll be happy. Most of my figures are from various ECW ranges. These are a nice addition. The Pilgrims give your colonial forces that "American militia look". I love this period. As I live in New England I get to visit many battlefields or at least their supposed locations. Fascinating period. Glad to see more figures for it!

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