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Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2015 9:52 p.m. PST

WWII Hero Credits Luck and Chance in Foiling Hitler's Nuclear Ambitions


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Tango0120 Nov 2015 10:01 p.m. PST

Superb!

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Fred Cartwright21 Nov 2015 5:40 a.m. PST

Not wishing to disparage the courage of the Heroes of the Telemark, but the claims it derailed German A bomb research are over egging it. As I understand it the Germans were nowhere near producing a bomb with or without the heavy water. The line of research they were taking was a dead end.

Brownbear21 Nov 2015 8:57 a.m. PST

a bomb and 17th century??
suppose something went wrong again

Gaz004521 Nov 2015 9:48 a.m. PST

That purple cow could be 'rad victim'…….

Lion in the Stars21 Nov 2015 9:50 a.m. PST

Tango really found a way to merge topics!

Ivan DBA21 Nov 2015 10:18 a.m. PST

It's not Tango's fault, the boards are seriously buggy lately.

Tango0121 Nov 2015 10:41 a.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it boys! (both!) (smile)

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CorpCommander23 Nov 2015 10:26 a.m. PST

Heavy Water wasn't a dead end. That is an often repeated claim that has no real basis. There was a production facility for it in Norway in 1936. Heavy Water can produce plutonium faster than enriching uranium and then producing plutonium. With heavy water you can produce it with straight yellow cake in a process that is very similar to creating brandy from wine. Not a joke!

There is a game here. The destruction of the Norwegian heavy water facility is what killed the German project.

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Fred Cartwright23 Nov 2015 10:53 a.m. PST

It wasn't the producing plutonium that was the dead end it was the making the bomb work once you have the plutonium that was the dead end. My understanding is that it wouldn't have produced a working bomb. As to why that was there are 2 versions. One by the German scientists working on the bomb that they deliberately pursued a course that they knew wouldn't work to stop Hitler getting the bomb and the second is that they really didn't know what they were doing and it was incompetence not sabotage. As for heavy water again my understanding is they had enough to make a bomb before the Norwegian plant was destroyed.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Nov 2015 1:16 p.m. PST

Fred is correct, the German research had made a wrong turn early on and they were headed in a direction which would not have led to a working bomb. That's not to say they couldn't have built one eventually, but they needed to recognize their error and get back on the right track and that was going to take years.

Ironically, Japanese scientists were actually far closer to a bomb than the Germans, although in their case it was all just theory. They had no infrastructure in place that could have built one.

Achtung Minen23 Nov 2015 6:39 p.m. PST

I do think Tango has gone too far this time!

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