"Global Anti-ISIS Alliance Begins to Emerge" Topic

"France, Russia and the U.S. moved beyond talk of cooperation and into the far more difficult realm of action, as the "grand and single coalition" French President François Hollande called for to combat Islamic State began coming into view.

President Barack Obama said Wednesday that if Russia shifts its military strategy in Syria to focus on Islamic State, the U.S. would welcome cooperation with Moscow on an intensified military campaign. He said he conveyed that message to Russian President Vladimir Putin in a meeting in Turkey earlier this week.

"That is something that we very much want to see," Mr. Obama said while in the Philippines for a summit of Asian nations…"
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Amicalement
Armand

Still no one openly says anything about going after the root of the islamototalitarism ideas proponents and financial backups and spreading apparatus from the gulf states.
So attacking somewhat the effects but not the cause.

These good cooperating friends of us, just sentenced to death a poet who renounced islam. And they have been given the human rights seat in the UN.

There is no shame in our "elites" in power.

What pray tell is "the root of the islamotoalitarism"? I think there are as many solutions to this issue as there are people with opinions.

My solution is to find a Natrual Gas replacement and then the Mid-East will suddenly become irrelovent. But that is just my $0.02 USD.

Chris

Are you referring to our Saudi and UAE friends Jc?

Who are really "friends" today? (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Yes saudis and consorts.
This article from one who really knows the history of the place will tell you:
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Google translate might not harm it too,much…;)

It is a war of ideas and propaganda first. You cannot win until ( too many ) muslims stop believing in the pseudo islamist crap. And money comes too.

For ex that is why it would be important in media to treat them as gangs of murderers… Not jihadists. Why words count.

The Saudis more and more are the "bad guys" behind the certain it seems. Funding and allowing Wahhabism, etc. … The Saudi Royals are generally thugs, like many of the local leadership. By funding Wahhabism it keeps many Saudis busy spreading and supporting their version of islam. Which is appears is not the same as many other Islamic sects ? They are Sunni but not like the same type of Sunni as many others ? Like Daesh is Sunni, but unlike many other Sunnis. If you are not Daesh … you are dead.

So along with the differences of Shia and Sunni. There are different versions of Sunnism it appears, and affiliations with local sheriffs, clerics, tribes, warlords, etc., you have a recipe for disaster as we see. Remember most of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis.

Again, many moslem nations can't really govern effectively, with many resorting to dictators, etc., along with the not unexpected corruption, etc. … Or many can't provide and take care for much of their populous like we see in the West. Again, it's their problem to fix. Nothing really more the West can do beyond what we are doing. Until the regional/locals works it out among themselves… It truly is a moslem problem, among moslems to be solved by moslems.

And blaming [and murdering] the West over and over at this point is just a convenient excuse, etc. … IMO … The Crusades are long over …

Hell, the US and Canada are capable of producing enough petroleum products that the Middle East is all but inconsequential as is. Price of crude needs to be higher than $40 USD to make it worthwhile to pursue shale oil, though.

We've reached the point of talking DAESH delenda est, now we just need to locate the political will to actually accomplish the delenda est.

Indeed …

I'm a bit shocked Article 5 hasn't been invoked yet, after last week's attack.

I guess those pushing to keep that from happening seem to be winning.

Instead, it seems France has called for some sort of EU defense pact to be put into place, instead.

I keep hearing there are 65 or 68 countries with us in fighting ISIS, but for some reason, they never get named, and we never hear about more than just a few that are actually doing anything.

Anyone seem the "allies" list, or know what they're doing to help fight ISIS?

I agree on the whole Saudi thing.

Pushing Wahhabi-ism around the globe isn't really helping much, so their feet should be held to the fire on that issue, especially given most of the 9/11 attackers were from there.

65 or 68 countries with us

Any of those countries that are local Arabs, you can pretty put them down for primarily "morale" support. Beside most of them are not very good soldiers, they'd rather have the infidels clean up their religious civil. After all Daesh are moslems too … But wait, the Turks and Persians are not Arabs but they are moslems … but they seem as useful as the Arabs in the region in combatting Daesh.

Instead, it seems France has called for some sort of EU defense pact to be put into place, instead.

Probably because they don't expect the US to do anything more than send planes when we should be sending entire corps or armies…