"FRANCE 2015" Topic

My previous post seemed to have ended up connected to some Fantasy thread posts. So I am repeating it here, with the hope it remains separate.

While we read about war and play wargames, the recent horrific events in Paris remind us about the reality of war and the consequences.

I'm sure everyone will agree with me when I say ours thoughts go out to our friends and the people of France. Stay strong.

Shouldn't this be on the Current Affairs board?

As long as I can move my figs while sipping a good beer and having a pork meat sandwich, nothing is lost. An f…ck the sons of sows that did that.

I don't agree with MajorB, this post should be on all the forums, napoleon was half french wasn't he ?

Gboue from Paris (living less than a mile from where the slaughter took place.

napoleon was half french wasn't he ?

I didn't know that Napoleon had anything to do with the recent atrocities?

Agreed Gboue
Ils sont sallauds!

MajoB a no nonsense lad wrote:"I didn't know that Napoleon had anything to do with the recent atrocities?"

I agree it a was a poor trial of "british humour" ?

Bad spelling dear JARROVIAN salauds takes only one "L" which is enough for those es

Gboue

@gboue2001, Stay well. I hope life returns to normal there soon.

Your sentiments are fine, but belong in a Modern board.

Thanks Gboue, It's about 30 years since I spoke any French in anger.
I love Paris, as a teen I used to stay with a family in Rue St Honore, near the Place des Pyramid and Jeanne d'Arc. Had some great holidays there and elsewhere in France. Must take my wife there sometime soon.
Salut
Paul F

In my high school, lycée charlemagne,a few hundred yards from last friday's killings, there was a minute of silence at noon. Some students raised a tricolour flag with a black ribbon and many sang spontaneously the Marseillaise, as emotional as the one exeptionally authorized by l'Empereur on Austerlitz' evening. So, Napoleonic board, yes, why not?

Sorry for this apparté in French : Gilles, nous nous sommes rencontrés au printemps dernier, lors de la renaissance du trinôme, les paroles du général Vincent Desportes prennent un relief particulier, ce dont je me doutais, hélas,déjà à l époque. Ravi de vous savoir sauf.

I am happy for this to be on the naps board, as France is always on my mind.

I observed the minutes silence this morning as I remembered the French.

Is it Je suis Paris now?

Not wargames, but us thinking of the people in France and showing solidarity

I observed the minutes silence this morning as I remembered the French.

So did I.

gboue2001

I actually posted this without the 2015 bit on the Napoleonic Boards because that is my main period of interest and where I make my posts, apart from the odd Ancient and Medieval posts. But it went up, then disappeared, and then reappeared in the Napoleonic Discussion board, with a load of fantasy posts connected to it, which I felt was inappropriate. I tried to do it again in the two Napoleonic boards and added 2015 to the title. It appeared in both boards and then disappeared and was apparently, without my knowledge, moved to this board, where I don't post?

I can't understand why it was not allowed to remain in the Napoleonic boards, but it is not my website.

I can't understand why it was not allowed to remain in the Napoleonic boards, but it is not my website.

It has nothing to do with wargaming in the Napoleonic period.

MajorB

It has NOTHING to do with wargaming at all! It was meant to show compassion and support to our French members and the people of France. I do not post in this board and did not post it here, but I do post in the Napoleonic Boards where I have debated with French members. That is why I posted it there. The historical period should have nothing to do with it. The Napoleon Series website made similar posts, so again, it has nothing to do with the historical period or what members might prefer to wargame. As gboue2001 mentioned, if anything, it should have been posted on all the boards, unless people object to showing compassion and support to our French members and the people of France?

I am very disappointed at the attitude of some of the members and Bill concerning this matter.

It has NOTHING to do with wargaming at all!

In that case it has even less reason to be on the Napoleonic boards.

The historical period should have nothing to do with it.

Sadly, that is not the case here on TMP.

it should have been posted on all the boards, unless people object to showing compassion and support to our French members and the people of France?

The Ultramodern Board is the appropriate place to express such sentiments.

I am very disappointed at the attitude of some of the members and Bill concerning this matter.

Bill's house, Bill's rules. Please don't shoot the messenger.

MajorB

Firstly, Bill said he removed it because a member had complained that my post had nothing to do with the Napoleonic period. True, it does not have anything to do with the Napoleonic period. The point is, my post was not about wargaming any period. It was to show my concern, support and compassion to our French members and the people of France. I debate with them in the Napoleonic boards, not here. I don't know anyone who posts here. But I was hoping that other members would feel the same? Perhaps I was wrong?

The members of the Napoleon Series website posted their support and concern and did not feel it was out of place, so why should it be out of place in the Napoleonic Boards here? It is not about wargaming or historical periods – it is about people showing compassion for other people.

Bill also told me that members see this site as a refuge from the news, despite the fact that the modern board is full of threads discussing todays news?????

It can be linked to napoleonic period: France of 2015 has nothing to do with that of 1815.

The point is, my post was not about wargaming any period. It was to show my concern, support and compassion to our French members and the people of France. I debate with them in the Napoleonic boards, not here.

TMP policy is that current affairs are not discussed on the wargaming boards. This board "Ultramodern (2005-2015)" is the only place where such discussion is permitted.

why should it be out of place in the Napoleonic Boards here?

See above.

It is not about wargaming or historical periods – it is about people showing compassion for other people.

Nothing wrong – indeed everything right – about showing compassion. However, there is a time and place for everything.

Bill also told me that members see this site as a refuge from the news, despite the fact that the modern board is full of threads discussing todays news?????

If people want to discuss current affairs they know where to find it. Others can carry on discussing wargaming without interuption elsewhere.

As I said before, Bill's house, Bill's rules. Please don't shoot the messenger.

MajorB

Your post is again missing the point. My post did not attempt to DISCUSS modern affairs or anything else! As I said before, it was offering concern, support and compassion to our French members and the people of France. How is that discussing anything? In terms of wargaming boards, there is a post related to the event concerning the La Marseillaise, which no one seems to have complained about. Well, not yet anyway. But as I say, my post did not DISCUSS anything, so NO RULES were broken. It was transferred here due to some members complaining it was not about Napoleonic wargaming, which seems very cold and petty, considering the intention of the post.

Your post is again missing the point.

I don't think so.

My post did not attempt to DISCUSS modern affairs or anything else!

But the point that YOU keep missing is that your post was NOT about wargaming and therefore was inappropriate on a WARGAMING board, whether it was "discussion" or not.

As I said before, it was offering concern, support and compassion to our French members and the people of France. How is that discussing anything?

See above. Whether you were "discussing" anything or not, the fact that the Editor saw fit to move your post to the Ultramodern board should be sufficient to indicate to you thet HE thought it was posted inappropriately.

In terms of wargaming boards, there is a post related to the event concerning the La Marseillaise, which no one seems to have complained about. Well, not yet anyway.

Armand's post was about the Marseillaise. The Marseillaise is about the French Revolution and thus relevant to wargaming.

But as I say, my post did not DISCUSS anything, so NO RULES were broken.

If you had broken a rule you would probably have been DHed. Inappropriate posting is not usually considered a DHable offence here on TMP.

It was transferred here due to some members complaining it was not about Napoleonic wargaming, which seems very cold and petty, considering the intention of the post.

The wargaming boards are for the discussion of wargaming, not for anything else. It is for BILL to decide what is appropriate on any board and what is not. He decided your posts should be here. He would probably have done the same even if no-one had complained. As far as you or I are concerned that should be the end of the matter.

BTW, have you noticed that the "Paris under attack" thread here on this board has had 324 posts mostly expressing compassion for the tragic events in Paris last Friday.

MajorB

Bill ONLY decided because SOME ONE complained. Others members on the Nap boards did not seem to have a problem with it.

Why did Tango01 make the post about the Marseillaise? It was, as he said in his post, due to the recent circumstances? That has nothing to do with wargaming either, has it? Unless some members play it while they wargame? Don't get me wrong, I was happy to see Tango's post. And I am just as happy that no one has complained and it has not been transferred somewhere else.

Overall, under the circumstances I would have thought that some leniency could have been employed. After all, it was not compulsory to make a post in reply or to support my post. It did not interrupt any wargaming or Napoleonic debates or discussions. And if I was a poster here I would have placed my post in this thread. But I have never posted here and might never do so. Other posters in the Napoleonic Boards seem to think my post was okay, so I'm happy that they are not as petty minded as whoever was cold enough to complain. But I do hope they did not complain just to get at me, because I made the post, that would be sick.

I won't push it further with Bill, because as you say, it is his site. And if he acts and makes a decision based on someone who felt compelled to moan even under such extraordinary and horrible circumstances, then that is the way it is. But thank you for pointing out the 'Paris under attack' thread. I, and probably other members, would not have been aware of it because of not visiting or posting in this section. Much appreciated and very comforting.

Bill ONLY decided because SOME ONE complained.

How do you know that?

Why did Tango01 make the post about the Marseillaise? It was, as he said in his post, due to the recent circumstances? That has nothing to do with wargaming either, has it?

As I explained before, Le Marseillaise is a military song from the Freench Revolution and is therefore entirely appropriate on the Napoleonic Discussion board.

Your post OTOH, had nothing to do with either wargaming or military matters of the Napoleoinc period.

It did not interrupt any wargaming or Napoleonic debates or discussions.

Imagine what would happen if everybody else played fast and loose with the posting rules as you did.

I won't push it further with Bill, because as you say, it is his site.

That is sensible.

MajorB

I know because Bill told me. He also told me that my post of concern, support and compassion, actually offended someone? Really? What sort of twisted mine could be offended by a post offering concern, support and compassion? That really is sick. To be honest, I think it was more personal and I guess some people would steep so low.

It terms of Tango01's mentioning of the La Marseillaise, he stated in his post he made it due to the recent events in Paris, so it was not a Napoleonic event that inspired his post. But I do not object to his post. I enjoyed it and his post invited Napoleonic debate and discussion, which is fine and as it should be.

But as I keep saying, my post was not aimed at creating debate or discussion or asking for a reply, it was just a post of concern, support and compassion. This, besides the people of France, was aimed at our French members who I have posted with in the Napoleonic Boards because, also as I keep saying, apart from the odd Ancient and Medieval post, I do not attend or post anywhere else.

And come on, playing fast and loose with posting rules? Really? I would not have made the post had the horrific events in Paris not taken place, so hardly an attempt to buck the rules. And it did not ask for debate and discussion on a non-Napoleonic topic. It was an emotional response to what happen and I guess I expected other members to understand that and feel the same. But it seems someone felt it broke a rule which to them was obviously far more important.

Anyway, although I find it a little disturbing that some people were offended (or claimed they were offended more likely) I know others had no problems with it. That, along with the comments made in the Attack on Paris topic, is very comforting and reassuring.

But as I keep saying, my post was not aimed at creating debate or discussion or asking for a reply,

Whether inviting discussion or not, still inappropriate for a WARGAMING board. And if Bill had disagreed with the complainer then he wouldn't have moved your post.

MajorB

No it wasn't. It was made due to horrific extraordinary circumstances. It was a one off with the aim of showing support for our French members and the people of France. A level of leniency could have been made, which could, for this sad occasion, have overruled the annoyance of an obviously rule book obsessive who appeared to have got upset over the breaking of a house rule, which to them was obviously more important than showing support and compassion.

It is more sickening if they knew of the Attack in Paris topic and they could have informed me of its existence and I could, like other members, made a post there. But as I've said before, I do not post or read other boards, so I was unaware of it until my post was transferred there. I can imagine others who may only post in other boards may also be unaware of that topic, so may be under the illusion that no one on this site gave a hoot.

In terms of inappropriate for a wargaming board, it seems the reasoning for this very board is actually being questioned. The rule book freak must be going nuts over that. First a post about support and compassion and now this. They must feel the world is coming to an end.

Ditto Tango 2 3

I've never had a ticket. The very thought! LOL

No it wasn't.

Bill clearly thought it was.

A level of leniency could have been made

It could, but Bill decided to uphold the complaint. I think your issue is with him rather than the individual who made the original complaint.

It is more sickening if they knew of the Attack in Paris topic and they could have informed me of its existence

Who knows whether they did or didn't know of the other thread's existence?

I do not post or read other boards, so I was unaware of it until my post was transferred there.

That of course is the underlying problem with the multiplicity of boards here on TMP. Again, that is an issue you need to take up with Bill as it was his decision to have so many boards. Personally, I think there are far too many boards and that can lead to this sort of confusion about where to post a particular topic.

In terms of inappropriate for a wargaming board, it seems the reasoning for this very board is actually being questioned.

This board was originally created because there were too many posts about current political events on the other Modern boards.

still inappropriate for a WARGAMING board
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MajorB
Though surely on that basis posts about Paris should not be on any of the thematic boards (Incl Ultra Modern) at all?

Though surely on that basis posts about Paris should not be on any of the thematic boards (Incl Ultra Modern) at all?

No. See the FAQ:
"Are there any special rules on the Ultramodern Board?
The Ultramodern Board includes discussion of contemporary military events. Politics should be avoided. Advocating for particular sides or factions is not allowed."
TMP link

In other words it would be inappropriate on the Ultramodern Gaming (2005-2015 board but OK on the Ultramodern (2005-2015) board

MajorB

No, you are wrong. The issue is with the rule book obsessive who felt that, in this one instance, a rule was more important than showing concern, support and compassion to our French members who post in the Napoleonic boards, and the people of France. That is where I post and where I have debated with our French members.

Bill would not have removed or transferred my post had the rule freak not claimed my post offended them. As I say, it is beyond believe that someone could actually be offended by a message of support and compassion. That makes me think it was probably personal by someone who would actually stooped so low.

No, you are wrong. The issue is with the rule book obsessive who felt that

So why didn't Bill ignore his complaint then?

Bill would not have removed or transferred my post had the rule freak not claimed my post offended them.

Again, how do you know that?

As I say, it is beyond belief that someone could actually be offended by a message of support and compassion.

Who said anyone was offended by it?

That makes me think it was probably personal by someone who would actually stooped so low.

I'm beginning to wonder if you have a persecution complex …

BTW, the "Paris under attack" thread now has 342 posts showing concern, support and compassion to our French members.

MajorB

Bill said the member was offended. He did not delete my first post but transferred it to this board. But I was unaware of what happened to is until I asked him why it was, as I thought, deleted?

If I had made regular non-Napoleonic posts, I could understand the petty minded member complaining. But this was (hopefully) a one off, related to a horrific event in which I wanted to express my support and compassion to those I debate and discuss with.

Like I keep saying, I don't post anywhere else so was unaware that other members had made a similar post in the Ultramodern board, which is commendable and reassuring. But it seems obvious, that either the sad member did not think showing support and compassion was more important than breaking a rule, or it was used to get at me just because I made the post?

And no, I do not have a persecution complex but I am disturbed by your lack of understanding? Perhaps you think the rule book obsessive was correct, I don't know. But it matters little now, the moment has gone. And I am only posting here because you feel compelled to make further posts.

Bill said the member was offended.

That was only Bill's impression from the complaint. It is a moot point whether the complainant was ACTUALLY offended or not. Bill thought he was, you only have Bill's word for that.

If I had made regular non-Napoleonic posts, I could understand the petty minded member complaining.

It has nothing to do with the number or frequency of posts. A rule infringement can be seen as the "thin end of the wedge" – "Well, it was alright for him, it's alright for me".

Like I keep saying, I don't post anywhere else so was unaware that other members had made a similar post in the Ultramodern board,

Unfortunately that is how TMP works. You have been here long enough to understand that. If you still don't get it, then I'm afraid that's your problem.

But it seems obvious, that either the sad member did not think showing support and compassion was more important than breaking a rule,

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

or it was used to get at me just because I made the post?

You need to watch that persecution complex of yours.

I am disturbed by your lack of understanding?

Oh, I understand very well. There has been an IMMENSE outpouring of compassion and concern about the French atrocities here on TMP, but in the appropriate place

And I am only posting here because you feel compelled to make further posts.

I feel compelled to respond to your continuing posts because it seems you still don't get the point.

Or perhaps I am flogging the proverbial?

MajorB

To use your own reasoning, you are suggesting that Bill is lying and I should not believe what he says? Not sure he would be very happy about that.

No, it is you who is missing the point, just like the rule obsessive who obviously feels the breaking of a rule, no matter what and even under such extraordinary and horrific circumstances, is far more important than a member showing support and compassion to those he posts with. In this case there IS NO REAL APPROPRIATE PLACE! That would suggest ONLY those who post in the Ultramoden boards had any support or compassion. Now that is OFFENSIVE!

And it is rather sickening to hear someone defending that everything must be in its RIGHT place, as if my one caring post would wreck the website, cause chaos and make everyone post about INAPPRORIATE THINGS IN INAPPROPRIATE PLACES.
That is totally unrealistic and borders on paranoia.

Anyway, I do hope you manage to control your absurd compulsion to try and get me to think like you. Hey, perhaps there is a rule about it? I'm sure you would know.

To use your own reasoning, you are suggesting that Bill is lying and I should not believe what he says? Not sure he would be very happy about that.

No, I am suggesting that Bill may have misinterpreted the intent of the complaint. The fact remains that the decision was Bill's. He did not have to take any action in response to the complaint. The fact that he did speaks volumes.

No, it is you who is missing the point, In this case there IS NO REAL APPROPRIATE PLACE! That would suggest ONLY those who post in the Ultramoden boards had any support or compassion. Now that is OFFENSIVE!

As I've said before, don't blame me, I didn't write the rules for TMP. Bill has clearly stated that the ONLY appropriate place for such posts is the Ultramodern board. If you think the TMP rules are OFFENSIVE then take up your concerns with Bill.

That is totally unrealistic and borders on paranoia.

Yes, your paranoia is quite alarming.

Anyway, I do hope you manage to control your absurd compulsion to try and get me to think like you.

I am not trying to get you to think like me. You obviously have some deep concerns about how your post was treated. I will repeat (again), TAKE IT UP WITH BILL.

MajorB

Bill has not stated anything of the sort. He has reacted to a cry baby hung up on rules, even under such an unusual and hopefully, one off occasion. If the rule obsessive had not complained in the first place, Bill would have had no reason to consider moving my post, especially since other members had no problem with it. So pushing the blame onto Bill instead of the rule obsessive who felt compelled to complain, is yet another copout.

And you have been here long enough so you know it is highly unlikely that Bill would change his mind, and it is far too late for that now anyway. And, unlike others, I do not run to Bill complaining and moaning about everything I disagree with, and certainly not something related to the earth shattering event of a rule being broken. Thankfully, not every member thinks like the sad rule obsessive and there are far more important things in life.

Nice to talk with you, although I doubt I will again, unless another of my Napoleonic posts are transferred here. LOL.

Bill has not stated anything of the sort.

He says it here:
"Can I discuss politics here?
Recent politics are not allowed. [POLITICS RULE] Discussion of political events more than ten years in the past is allowed."

"Are there any special rules on the Ultramodern Board?
The Ultramodern Board includes discussion of contemporary military events. Politics should be avoided. Advocating for particular sides or factions is not allowed."
TMP link

Bill would have had no reason to consider moving my post, especially since other members had no problem with it.

Bill may well have moved it if he had spotted it with or without a complaint.

So pushing the blame onto Bill instead of the rule obsessive who felt compelled to complain, is yet another copout.

Which bit of "Bill's house, Bill's rules" don't you understand? And I repeat (again!) that Bill did not have to take any notice of the complaint, if as you imply, he might have made an exception to the house rules given the gravity of the tragedy in Paris. It was Bill's decision to move your post. Not mine, not yours, not anybody elses. It is therefore hardly a copout.

And you have been here long enough so you know it is highly unlikely that Bill would change his mind, and it is far too late for that now anyway.

On the contrary, I have seen Bill change his mind on more than one occasion. Largely in response to outcry from the TMP membership. I see very few people rallying to your cause here.

My thoughts and prayers for the French in these dark hours. Now for the Elephant in the room – it was moved as it nothing to do with wargaming sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesssshhhhhhh

MajorB

Your defence of the house rules is commendable. I'm sure no one would dare break them in your presence and I'm sure you would let them know sharpish anyway, should they dare.

But in reply to your post which again you felt compelled to make. Firstly, NO politics were discussed or asked to be discussed. It was a post offering support and compassion, nothing more.

Secondly, the facts are not as simple as you seem to think. I've been rereading the messages sent by Bill after I asked why was my post removed. His first response was that it may have been a glitch. That suggests Bill may not have been the one who removed it?

You seem unable to grasp the fact that had the rule obsessive member not complained it would not have been removed in the first place because Bill was obviously unaware of it. So no, the blame does not go with Bill, it goes with the petty minded member who obviously believes rules must be obeyed no matter what the circumstances, and even if the post did not invite discussion or debate unrelated to the board it was in. It was a clear case of a petty response to a post of compassion.

Finally, it is not a cause? What an absurd thing to say! And if you look carefully, you will see that more than one member in this very thread felt there was nothing wrong with my post. You, however, seem hung up with my posts and with defending the flaming rule book, no matter what? Perhaps you should consider letting it go?

It is pointless saying any more. I only wanted to show my support and compassion, nothing more, and I certainly did not expect my post to upset any rule freaks. Sadly, you live and learn, I guess.

Firstly, NO politics were discussed or asked to be discussed.

So, according to you, the Paris attacks were not political in intent?
On TMP anything to do with current events (in the last 10 years) is regarded as politics. Perhaps you didn't get the memo?

Secondly, the facts are not as simple as you seem to think. I've been rereading the messages sent by Bill after I asked why was my post removed. His first response was that it may have been a glitch. That suggests Bill may not have been the one who removed it?

Rubbish. The Editors are the only ones who can move posts from one board to another. This thread has clearly NOT been affected by the TMP bug that inadvertently puts posts on the wrong board. Your previous post OTOH (as you said) seemed to have ended up connected to some Fantasy thread posts and that is what Bill was referring to as a "glitch".

You seem unable to grasp the fact that had the rule obsessive member not complained it would not have been removed in the first place because Bill was obviously unaware of it.

You seem unable to grasp the fact that when Bill's attention was drawn to it, he DID move it. If your argument that the thread should have stayed on the Napoleonic boards was true and fair, then why did Bill move it?

So no, the blame does not go with Bill,

I'm afraid it does. Bill moved it. No one else.

It was a clear case of a petty response to a post of compassion.

So, again according to you, rules are there to be broken when you feel like it?

Finally, it is not a cause? What an absurd thing to say!

"Cause" in the sense that you invited others to agree with you. Few have. Although very many have done so on the "Paris under attack" thread – the right and proper way for TMPers to have responded to the tragic events.

It is pointless saying any more.

I agree. When are you going to give up flogging the dead horse?

I only wanted to show my support and compassion, nothing more

If you had done so in the right and proper way here on TMP that would have been fine.

MajorB

Just what is YOUR problem?

What a pathetic, dumb and insulting thing to say! Of course the event was POLTICAL as well as horrific. MY POST WASN'T. It was a message of concern, support and compassion for the friends and FRENCH members of this site that I have debated with in the Napoleonic boards. As I say before, which you seem unable to grasp or just don't want to – it did not ask or invite debate or discussion.

And here, I have not invited anyone to agree or disagree with me. I DID NOT MOVE MY POST HERE, AS YOU KEEP POINTING OUT. And please, TRY READING THE LAST LINE OF MY POST. It is obvious that my post is one of support and compassion, nothing more. And to keep harping on about the right and proper way to make a post of compassion – HOW MANY TIMES do I have to tell you that I only post in the Napoleonic boards so was unaware of the Ultramodern Paris topic where I was pleased to see the same compassion being offered. And I don't know if those I aimed my concern and support to post in the Ultramoderns as well as in the Napoleonic Boards.

And despite my saying it was pointless to say any more, indicating the matter should left alone now, considering the circumstances, you are the one that seems compelled to keep flogging a dead horse, or should that be a rule book horse? Rules are fine but there are times, obviously not in your rule obsessive little world, when they can be broken, need to be broken and should be broken. And anyone who believed my post would cause chaos and other members to flaunt and break rules, should have their paranoia checked out. I think that is actually an insult to other members, who see the reasoning for the post when and where it was made.

Anyway, if you really agree with me that is it pointless to say anymore, which you stated in your last post, it would be appreciated if you followed your own advice and moved on. There are far more important matters to be concerned about.

Just what is YOUR problem?

I might ask you the same thing.

Of course the event was POLTICAL as well as horrific. MY POST WASN'T.

Your post referred to a POLITICAL event. That as far as TMP goes means you are talking about politics. The rules still apply.

it did not ask or invite debate or discussion. And here, I have not invited anyone to agree or disagree with me.

To quote your very words in THE LAST LINE OF YOUR POST:
"I'm sure everyone will agree with me when I say ours thoughts go out to our friends and the people of France."

And please, TRY READING THE LAST LINE OF MY POST. It is obvious that my post is one of support and compassion, nothing more.

That doesn't make it any less as far as referring to current events.

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to tell you that I only post in the Napoleonic boards

That's strange. You seem to have spent an awful lot of time posting here recently.

And despite my saying it was pointless to say any more, indicating the matter should left alone now, considering the circumstances, you are the one that seems compelled to keep flogging a dead horse,

You did not have to reply to my last post, did you?

Rules are fine but there are times, … when they can be broken, need to be broken and should be broken.

Thank you for admitting that you broke the rules on TMP.

And anyone who believed my post would cause chaos and other members to flaunt and break rules, should have their paranoia checked out.

You have heard the saying "the thin end of the wedge" I presume?

Anyway, if you really agree with me …

I'll stop when you stop.

MajorB

Firstly, I did not believe I had broken a house rule BECAUSE I DID NOT INVITE DEBATE OR DISCUSSION. I DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE EVENT. You just don't want to accept that it was a post offering my support and compassion, which I believed other members might want to share (I'm talking about other members in the Napoleonic boards), but I am pleased to say I later found out similar posts of concern and support had been made in ANOTHER TOPIC IN ANOTHER BOARD which was one I had never posted in or read until recently.

But in my post, there was no attempt to talk politics, discuss recent events or ask people to make comments concerning my post or the event itself. Those who think otherwise should explain how it could possibly do that. If I read such a post by someone else it would not make me discuss anything but it might make me want to shown my support and compassion for the French members, to which the post was intended for. Had they complained that would have been a different matter and I would have deleted it myself.

And please don't make silly statements. I am only posting here because my NAPOLEONIC POST was transferred here and YOU can't move on. That is so obvious and a little disturbing? And obviously to you, breaking a rule, no matter what the circumstances are, is more important than showing compassion. That is very sad, as is the fact you can't stop yourself making further posts, even though I have suggested it is time we both moved on.

As to the glitch statement you made earlier, once more you have it wrong. You really should check things out before making rash and incorrect statements. Neither I nor Bill at that time he mentioned a glitch had any idea that fantasy posts were attached to my first post. It was only when I asked why it had been removed because I thought it had been deleted, that Bill said it may have been a glitch. And it was only later when Bill pointed out where the first post had been transferred to, that the attached fantasy posts were noticed. In other words, Bill would not have thought it may have been a glitch had he been the one who removed it, would he?

And you say you will stop when I stop. Really? That is incredibly childish and oddly and disturbingly personal. But okay, lets put your claim to the test. I won't post again if you don't post. Over to you. (By the way, my wargaming pals are laying bets that you won't be able to resist another post)