| alexjones | 14 Nov 2015 11:57 a.m. PST |
I don't have any decent references for OOBs in the Peninsula. Would anybody be able to suggest some good books or which battles involved Italian regiments please? |
| Ed von HesseFedora | 14 Nov 2015 1:43 p.m. PST |
The Italian and Neapolitan units were deployed almost exclusively in Eastern Spain under Suchet. I've glanced at the orders of battle for several of the battles, Alcaniz, Maria, Saguntum, and Castalla and I don't see where the Italians were present. They seem to have spent most of the time in garrison, LOC operations, and sieges. Here's a wiki list of the battles on that side of the Peninsula: Valls Gerona Alcañiz María Belchite Mollet Vich Manresa Lérida Mequinenza La Bisbal Tortosa Pla 1st Tarragona Montserrat Figueras Cervera Saguntum Valencia Alicante Altafulla 1st Castalla 2nd Castalla 2nd Tarragona Ordal I hope that helps. |
| alexjones | 14 Nov 2015 2:50 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the list, I came to the same conclusions after never seeing any Italian regiments on any OOBs. Pity as I was looking forward to painting some white uniforms! |
| JimDuncanUK | 14 Nov 2015 3:42 p.m. PST |
@FirstBrigade Try some Wurzburg then. link I'm sure some of them got to the Peninsula. |
| Jcfrog | 14 Nov 2015 4:06 p.m. PST |
In memoirs Suchet said he always took them in field ops as being there since the beginning they were his best veterans: all those who wanted to desert were long already gone ( by 1812). Yes even the Much maligned Napolitans. |
| kustenjaeger | 15 Nov 2015 2:46 p.m. PST |
Greetings Italian units were certainly in action. As far as Sagunto is concerned see the report of Palombini link Also the Napoleon regiment of Italian dragons served with Suchet in the cavalry 'division'. Regards Edward |
| alexjones | 16 Nov 2015 3:54 a.m. PST |
thnks Kustenjaeger, That link has disappeared, I am sure it was there yesterday. Is there another way to get there? |
| Ed von HesseFedora | 17 Nov 2015 6:36 a.m. PST |
There was an errant period. Try this link |
| alexjones | 17 Nov 2015 10:57 a.m. PST |
Thanks, took me a while to realise that you were talking a bout a full stop, haha. |
| vicmagpa1 | 18 Dec 2015 12:30 a.m. PST |
black powder peninsular book has scenarios already done. |
 Whirlwind  | 22 Dec 2015 12:27 a.m. PST |
You could always do the order of battle for the Tarragona campaign if you wanted Italians in your French force to fight the Allies: Imperial Forces: PDF link Allied Forces: PDF link |
| tvlamb | 27 Dec 2015 12:55 p.m. PST |
If you follow the link in Ed's post above to Napitalia and go to the deployments tab you can see which units were in Spain during any given year. |
| Teodoro Reding | 06 Feb 2016 11:43 a.m. PST |
The Italian division fought at the Battle of Cardedeu in autumn 1808. Together with a French division (Souham), they were trying to break through a Spanish force blocking them consisting of Vives' division (regulars fresh from Majorca) and Reding's division (Granadan levies). The Italians were in the front and failed to break Vives' line, so then Souham took charge and broke through Reding's raw regiments.
The Dragoons of Napoleon were a really good regiment – more of less won the battle of Sagunto on their own. |
| Teodoro Reding | 02 Mar 2016 1:22 p.m. PST |
The same Spanish division (Pino's) plus Chabot's division with three Neapolitan batallions were at the two follow ups to Cardedeu in the first Catalonian campaign. Following Oman, I have them represented as:
Brigade Fontane
2e Léger italien (2)
4e de Ligne italien (2)
7e de Ligne italien (2)
Brigade Mazzuchetti
1er Léger italien (2)
6e de Ligne italien (2) |
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