Tango01 | 12 Nov 2015 3:36 p.m. PST |
…April 1, 1865, and the Controversy That Brought Down a General. "McCarthy's Confederate Waterloo is grounded upon extensive research and a foundation of primary sources, including the meticulous records of a man driven to restore his honor in the eyes of his colleagues, his family, and the American public. The result is a fresh dispassionate analysis that may cause students of the Civil War to reassess their views about some of the Union's leading generals."
See here link Confederate Waterloo??… wasn't it Gettysburg?… Amicalement Armand |
Old Contemptibles | 12 Nov 2015 3:57 p.m. PST |
Publishers choose these hyperbolic titles to sale books to those with little or no knowledge of the topic. This battle does not in any way compare to Waterloo. |
jowady | 12 Nov 2015 4:21 p.m. PST |
The problem with calling Five Forks "Waterloo" is that the war was pretty much over for Bobby Lee and the ANV when it happened. That and the fact that the attacking force won and Pickett, Rosser and Fitz Lee were never considered the best in the world. I haven't read this book but based on the title alone I have to say that it's probably not as good as Ed Bearss' book on Five Forks. As for controversy, well sure, there's the whole relief of Warren thing although it's pretty obvious that Sheridan screwed up (I mean he did have all that cavalry and yet had a poor knowledge of Confederate dispositions) and of course the whole "Shad Bake" for which Lee chastised Pickett although Pickett at least tried to rejoin his command while Fitz Lee didn't even bother. |
GoodOldRebel | 12 Nov 2015 4:26 p.m. PST |
'Another nail in the coffin of the Confederacy' doesn't sound quite as exciting? |
Irish Marine | 12 Nov 2015 5:15 p.m. PST |
I'm kinda of partial to "Ground under by the boot heel of justice" |
Dynaman8789 | 12 Nov 2015 6:51 p.m. PST |
It was pretty much over for Naploean at Waterloo too, win or lose he was already done foir. |
John the Greater | 13 Nov 2015 2:49 p.m. PST |
A poor title, probably chosen to boost sales. Maybe we could compare the two battles. if Napoleon had been off at the French equivalent of a shad planking instead of being with his army at Waterloo. Darn, now I will have "French shad planking" stuck in my brain for the rest of the day. Escargot planking, perhaps? |
GoodOldRebel | 13 Nov 2015 3:23 p.m. PST |
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donlowry | 14 Nov 2015 9:57 a.m. PST |
Well, it was the battle that finally forced Lee to let go of Richmond. However, at Waterloo, the attacker lost; at 5 Forks, the attacker won. So not much similarity. |
vtsaogames | 14 Nov 2015 12:13 p.m. PST |
hmm, both sides had cavalry. That's about it. I have a book "Where the South Lost the War" about Forts Henry and Donelson. The author wanted a much more sedate title but the publisher insisted. The book is good, title aside. |
Trajanus | 15 Nov 2015 6:27 a.m. PST |
I'm looking forward to: 1201 E. Clay StreetThe story of fall of Jefferson Davis Richmond Bunker |
mashrewba | 15 Nov 2015 12:09 p.m. PST |
Should have called it something like"The Forgotten Confederate Victory" -that's the way these things are promoted these days -mind you presumably they didn't win anyway so that would be even more idiotic.lol |
donlowry | 15 Nov 2015 3:02 p.m. PST |
By the way, I passed through 5 Forks about 20 years ago. I didn't see anything to mark the battlefield. There might have been a roadside sign. I don't remember 1 though. Just a place where 5 roads still come together. |
Trajanus | 15 Nov 2015 3:52 p.m. PST |
Don't know about signage but it's part of the Petersburg National Battlefied under the National Park Service. |
FreemanL | 16 Nov 2015 6:06 a.m. PST |
I went to Five Forks two years ago and there is a stone marker and a small but very nice visitors center. The Park Ranger there was a joy to talk with about the fight. The Stone marker is near a tree so easily masked if you approach it wrong. The visitors center is also away from the crossroads but worth spending the 3-5 minutes to find. There are also national park place and road markers around as well to help you map out the battle. We went there as Danielle's direct line ancestor fought there with the Union (New Yorker) and was part of the turning flank march with Crawford. It is a small, compact battlefield and easily accessible, but be careful crossing the streets as it is still an active road and cross traffic does not have to stop! |
bschulte | 25 Dec 2015 11:14 p.m. PST |
I'm pretty sure Bryce Suderow had a hand in helping the author research this one. Hyperbolic title aside, I'm looking forward to it. I didn't have any advanced look at it, so I'll be pre-ordering for sure. For me, the more important part is "the controversy that brought down a general." I've long maintained that Sheridan did wrong by Gouverneur Warren, so it'll be ineresting to see how McCarthy handles that aspect of the fight. Brett Schulte The Siege of Petersburg Online |