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Tango0112 Nov 2015 3:04 p.m. PST

"One seldom seems wargames units of British Napoleonic cavalry carrying their flags on the tabletop. Indeed, about the only article I can recall reading about British cavalry standards was in the original NEWA Courier back in the early 1970's, and I think that article dealt with the era of the American Revolutionary War. Now, granted that it is uncertain if British cavalry units carried their fl;ages with them into the field prior to 1812, and almost certainly didn't do so thereafter, but when has something like that stopped us? It certainly wouldn't stop me – I like most of my troops in full dress uniform, and just as they would carry their flags at a parade, so they do on my table. Perhaps one can blame it on the toy soldier origins of our hobby, not that I think any blame is indicated anyway.

In any event, British cavalry units were generally provided with one flag per squadron. For the Household Cavalry regiments these were square (2 feet 5 inches, [plus a 2" fringe) Standard. For the Dragoons, swallow tailed guidons were used (2 feet 3 inches on the staff by 3 feet 5 inches maximum length). They were carried on a 9 foot long lance. The Light Dragoons had guidons that were "somewhat smaller" (2 foot 4 inches by 2 foot 10 inches on the only surviving example). For the Dragoons Guards, the King's flag was a square standard, but the other squadrons carried swallow tailed guidons – at least theoretically! The Hussars were not supposed to have standards, but as they started as Light Dragoons they probably retained their earlier flags, even if they remained at home…"

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Armand

Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2015 8:57 p.m. PST

Most of my regiments never got the order to leave their standards at the depot. wink

Rick

Tango0113 Nov 2015 9:51 a.m. PST

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

GMB Designs Inactive Member13 Nov 2015 10:47 a.m. PST

Very pretty !

The 14th Light Dragoons have theirs upside down though…
and so do the 18th Hussars.
Is it some kind of secret code ?

Regards

Grahame GMB Designs

Gonsalvo13 Nov 2015 11:17 a.m. PST

Sheesh, thanks for pointing that out Grahame – I had to look at the close ups to verify that. I will have to fix that, as now that I know about it it will drive me crazy!

BTw, thanks for producing these great flags for the Bitish Cavalry!

Peter

GMB Designs Inactive Member13 Nov 2015 11:51 a.m. PST

Hi Peter

apologies for causing trouble.

email me if they don't survive the fix – I'll
send you some nice new ones.

Grahame GMB

marshalGreg13 Nov 2015 12:09 p.m. PST

Darn that Gonsalvo! ;-)

Shelved "My British cavalry flags" project….. restarted!

MG

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2015 12:20 p.m. PST

A flag inverted is a well recognised distress signal…..I have those Household flags from GMB and really must buy/paint the figures to go with them…one day!

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP14 Nov 2015 1:17 p.m. PST

Well, this certainly inspires me to give at least my British heavy cavalry flags. So off to see if GMB makes them and…

…he's off-line.

*Sigh*

Tango0114 Nov 2015 10:51 p.m. PST

Good for them! (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

von Winterfeldt15 Nov 2015 12:34 a.m. PST

I am always happy when standards were not used in the field, then I don't have to do them for the wargaming unit.

Gonsalvo15 Nov 2015 1:48 p.m. PST

GMB makes them (Heavy cavalry flags), at least for units that fought in the Peninsula or the 100 Days.

You can see (deliberately) blurry examples of the GMB flags for the 2nd or Royal North British Dragoons (Scot's Greys), 3rd (Prince of Wales") Dragoon Guards, and the 4th (Queen's Own) Dragoons in the post linked above.

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