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Swastakowey02 Nov 2015 8:47 p.m. PST

Hey guys,

When galleys lost their rams over the drak ages (correct me if misinformed) did they simply resort to last second cannon volleys then boarding action? Or is there more to it.

What sort of weapons did these naval soldiers use in these boarding actions?

How easy was boarding?

Some links to some detailed sites would be great or even a decent run through if you are know your stuff. Im finding very little info on the actual use of the galley and how boarding worked, specifically during the time of ramless galleys.

Cheers

rmaker02 Nov 2015 10:01 p.m. PST

The book you want to read is "Naval warfare under oars, 4th to 16th centuries : a study of strategy, tactics and ship design" by William Ledyard Rodgers.

Swastakowey02 Nov 2015 10:20 p.m. PST

Excellent, I will look around the town library for it. Thank you.

MajorB03 Nov 2015 2:28 a.m. PST

When galleys lost their rams over the dark ages (correct me if misinformed)

Are you talking about ancient galleys or Renaissance galleys?

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Nov 2015 4:17 a.m. PST

Ramming as a galley tactic was actually only effective for a short period and the classical galley with ram bow was more to do with strength of construction in later craft.

By the late Empire the 'beaked' galley – with its 'ram' at or above the waterline was appearing and this concept carried on into the renaissance via Dromons and Arab craft.

Once cannon were fitted they could only really be fired once during an attack as loading them was too difficult and the crews too exposed unless the vessel was out of range of enemy.

Boarding was the majority tactic throughout the whole of galley warfare and its ease depended on too many factors to cover in a forum.

As stated above, you need some books. Gunpowder & Galleys is another good one. Take care with the Rodgers book, this volume is much better than his one covering the earlier period but it still has sections that are now rather outdated.

Swastakowey03 Nov 2015 2:54 p.m. PST

Renaissance galleys specifically.

Ok Gunpowder and Galleys added to the list.

Thanks for the info so far.

MajorB03 Nov 2015 3:51 p.m. PST

Renaissance galleys specifically.

Ah. What confused me was your reference to the "dark ages" which of course, preceded the Reanaissance.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2015 4:33 p.m. PST

Agree about Rodgers, and I also highly recommend "Gunpowder & Galleys". Guilmartin also has some articles on the topic published on from his web site – look at the bottom of that page under "Articles". Some of these are actually elaborations of what he says in "Gunpowder & Galleys".

There's a wee bit of information in the Osprey book "Renaissance War Galley", but only just enough to whet the appetite. It's sort of like Cliff Notes – if you already know the subject, you can get information out of it, but otherwise it's hard to tell what's important.

The Time Life book "The Venetians" (from the delightful old book series "The Seafarers") also covers the topic, but like the Osprey, there isn't enough in there to write a whole wargame.

Between the three of the above, you can start to piece together the weaponry, tactics, measurements, national differences, etc.

Some sort of anti-recommendations:
Guilmartin wrote a second book called "Galleys and Galleons" which is a much lighter treatment of the subject. Not all that great for wargaming purposes, but again it does elaborate just a bit on the subject, so worth reading if it's free/cheap.

I found "The Galleys at Lepanto" by Jack Beeching to have some excellent social and political background for the War of Cyprus and the battle of Lepanto, but it has almost zero material/technical information. The main thing that stuck with me were the comments about the smell of galleys (servile rowing gangs chained to the oars had to answer nature's call where they sat).

This essay about signals on Maltese galleys by John Muscat has some interesting information, though any insights about the nature of galley warfare are oblique.

- Ix

Swastakowey03 Nov 2015 4:51 p.m. PST

Sorry MajorB, I should have simply put the correct time frame in the OP.

Ok looks like I got some reading to keep me over while the book stores search their stocks for these books.

I always come here to find this sort of stuff. You guys are great!

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