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JasonAfrika28 Oct 2015 12:18 p.m. PST

I'm doing a game in 1/285-1/300 where 1 model equals 1 Battalion. Can anyone suggest books that have detailed OOBs for the Germans, Italians, and the Commonwealth armies? Thanks in advance.

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP28 Oct 2015 12:54 p.m. PST

You might try the Nafziger OOBs:

link

Rich Bliss28 Oct 2015 12:56 p.m. PST

Benghazi Handicap by Frank Chadwick. It has everything you need for 1940-1941.

JasonAfrika28 Oct 2015 1:01 p.m. PST

Thanks Rich Benghazi Handicap by Frank Chadwick looks great, problem is no one has it for sale that I could find…out of print/out of stock. Any ideas? Thanks

Bellbottom28 Oct 2015 1:25 p.m. PST

Try this

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shadoe0128 Oct 2015 1:29 p.m. PST

Isn't Benghazi Handicap available here?

link

Who asked this joker28 Oct 2015 1:55 p.m. PST

Two Rapid Fire books below should get you what you want.

North Afrika (also linked on e-bay above) link

Monty's Desert Battles link

They are detailed down to the platoon level but the battalion/regimental formations are listed.

Don Hogge28 Oct 2015 6:14 p.m. PST

I bought my copy of Benghazi Handicap from Dennis at On Military Matters

6mmACW28 Oct 2015 7:53 p.m. PST

One base = 1 battalion? Interesting. I'd love to know what rules you plan to use for such an operational-level game. There are not too many options out there and even fewer that actually look appealing. But I've always been interested in that level.

Martin Rapier29 Oct 2015 1:57 a.m. PST

At that level you don't need company/battalion OBs, and the formation variations are actually quite minor. One of the hardest things is figuring when 90th Light got enough trucks to become fully motorised….

Green and Massignani "Rommels North Africa Campaign" has army level OBs for all the major operations (Crusader, Venezia etc) and is a good starting point. Beghazi handicap is useful for the earlier period up to and including Crusader.

I have the entire Italian Army, DAK and significant chunks of 8th Army in 6mm, at one base = one battalion.

There is a range of options you can use, and at that level it is easy enough to lift boardgame mechanisms. One of my favourites is KISS Rommel, looks a bit odd on first reading, but actually works very well for North Africa due its campaign format. You can tailor the division cards to what you have available.

JasonAfrika29 Oct 2015 4:58 a.m. PST

Martin Rapier, could you kindly contact me at jasonpasquale@yahoo.com. I would like to get some more info from you regarding the 1 stand=1 battalion set-up. Thanks!

Martin Rapier29 Oct 2015 5:51 a.m. PST

It isn't any great secret. I did them originally for Megablitz, but in fact it works for any one base = one battalion set. The only real questions are how you treat the divisional assets (AT, engineers, AA, recce etc) – as battalion sized blobs, factored in or broken down into company sized support elements. Different rules take different approaches, but of course the safest thing is to buy lots of extra options to cover all the options:)

KISS Rommel has some sensible suggested organisations, but the more standard units like British Infantry Divisions are easy – HQ (or or two stands, depending), logistics (various trucks etc, if you want), engineers, AA regt, AT regt, three field regiments (one stand per regiment) and three brigades each with three infantry battalions. You may or may not want to model brigade support companies, I don't usually bother.

7th AD is a bit of a pain as it functions more like a Corps much of the time, particularly during Crusader with three full armoured brigades and a support group. Later in the war it is a bit more sensible and you have a couple of other more homogenous divisions to play with.

I usually do the recce regiments as company stands, so they can spread out, but they can be used as battalion stands if needed.

The Panzer divisions are an odd collection of stuff, particularly early in the war, again it mainly depends how you want to model the support elements and all the attached AA/AT weapons. The core of each division is a couple of panzer battalions and a single motorised regiment (five stands, if you are going very minimal!).

Italian infantry 4-6 battalions, weak artillery regiment. Some AT and engineers if you are feeling generous.

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