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olicana22 Oct 2015 7:55 a.m. PST

Last night I transferred the board game War Galley by GMT to the war game table for a battle using miniatures.

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My AAR is here, and it doesn't make happy reading.

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Oh well, onward and upward.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2015 8:10 a.m. PST

Sorry the game didn't work out but your ships are still gorgeous!

John the OFM22 Oct 2015 8:15 a.m. PST

Was it better than a day at work?

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Oct 2015 8:41 a.m. PST

Hmm, using war galley with a bunch of Hotz card models has long been on my to-do list. Might give that one a rethink – thanks for the heads-up….

olicana22 Oct 2015 8:55 a.m. PST

Was it better than a day at work?

At the end of a day's work at least I have some cash to show for it.

The only thing I have from last night are the new counters I spent four or five hours making: they'll get used for another game, I suppose.

Bashytubits22 Oct 2015 9:48 a.m. PST

That is really too bad. The board and miniatures look fabulous.

dwight shrute22 Oct 2015 9:48 a.m. PST

agreed the ships look superb … you should get a nice amount for those on ebay :-)

olicana22 Oct 2015 9:50 a.m. PST

agreed the ships look superb … you should get a nice amount for those on ebay :-)

The ships I'll keep, the board game will probably go on ebay. Someone will want it for their 'GMT collection'.

John Treadaway22 Oct 2015 11:31 a.m. PST

Shame about the game but an excellent and in-depth write up that made for n informative read.

So thanks for that.

John T

Porthos22 Oct 2015 12:16 p.m. PST

Some boardgames can give quite a nice "table" result with models – like for instance Wooden Ships & Iron Men. This one obviously doesn't, so just call it a lesson learned. With so much boardgames around surely there must be one that does work in this period ? People wiser than me should comment on this…

Plasticviking322 Oct 2015 12:52 p.m. PST

Good to see a colourful galley battle report.(maybe the air was blue as well as the table ? :) ) Shame it was not so much fun to participate. From bitter experience I know galley warfare is a difficult subject to make a good game which at the same time keeps the detail and flavour one wants.
I have recently been going the other direction with small models and minimal book-keeping or markers.
ramsravensandwrecks.blogspot.dk

Maybe better to start with ones own interpretation of what makes a good galley game rather than work with what another has already filtered through their own prejudices ?
But it is not easy.

gamershs22 Oct 2015 2:01 p.m. PST

Having learned from past experience "if the rules do not meet expectations then change the rules". You have the miniatures and the table which is the most time consuming.

Figure out what you didn't like about the rules and go and review older rules to see their approach. Then write a set of rules that meet YOUR expectations.

This approach is "old school" but when you get a game that you and the other players enjoy it is GREAT.

Then you put it online and I can try them!!!! :.]

olicana22 Oct 2015 2:14 p.m. PST

Then write a set of rules that meet YOUR expectations.

I have done this already, kinda. I wrote a set of galley rules called Fleet of Battle which were published in WI #278. They are actually quite good fun, but I've always thought a hexed based system for such 'pell mell' battles might be less confusing / easier. I was hoping that War Galley would save me the trouble of conversion and a rewrite.

Writing rules is something I do (and get paid for) from time to time but I have so little time these days.

Personal logo Endless Grubs Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2015 2:23 p.m. PST

Great eye candy! Too bad it didnt translate--keep looking at other rule sets or modify/simplify. Who makes the ships--did someone say Hotz??

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Oct 2015 2:54 p.m. PST

Those look like Xyston 1/600 to me – gorgeous models, and rather a fine paintjob…. :-) For huge actions there are 1/1200 and even 1/2400 ranges on the market, while the Hotz stuff is at the other end of the spectrum – 1/300 card models.

wrgmr122 Oct 2015 3:25 p.m. PST

Hotz has a rule set for galleys, you may want to try

Tazman4968422 Oct 2015 5:51 p.m. PST

You wouldn't have known if you hadn't tried.

mghFond22 Oct 2015 7:24 p.m. PST

Check the Edinburgh Wargames Journal site run by Angus Kostam, they have been playing miniatures galley games of that era and having a great time of it, seems to be a big hit with their group.
Maybe it would be your cup of tea?

Oops, actually reading your blog now I realize your game is ancients and the one the Edinburgh group is playing is Rennaissance. Still many of the mechanics might work?

olicana23 Oct 2015 1:54 a.m. PST

I know Angus K and have a set of those fine rules.

olicana23 Oct 2015 2:02 a.m. PST

Tazmanetc., I think that sums it up very well.

Ships are Xyston. Very nice but a bit pricey now at £7.00 GBP£10.00 GBP each. I was in the right place at the right time when I bought half of these. They were being sold at a shop promo for the manufacturer (?), two for one. I'd helped set up the shop and got a 50% discount on top – they were £5.00 GBP each back then, so they cost me just £1.25 GBP each. The rest I picked up on ebay over the next ten years or so.

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Gone Fishing23 Oct 2015 8:12 a.m. PST

Too bad about the game, but those ships are a thing of beauty. Wow!

Personal logo Endless Grubs Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2015 12:44 p.m. PST

suddenly I feel very insignificant….

Bob Runnicles10 Nov 2015 3:03 p.m. PST

Sorry you didn't like War Galley, I actually liked it myself. Your table was very inspirational though! I already have several minis for galleys from Langton along with his Naumachaie rules though I've not had a chance to try them yet, have you checked them out at all?

138SquadronRAF12 Nov 2015 9:38 a.m. PST

Couple of thoughts; consider using AH "Trireme" rules

Models look really good.

What's with all those "Chadwicks" the bead and cone clutter that is so distracting? Is that necessary to play the game?

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