warhawkwind | 21 Oct 2015 7:39 a.m. PST |
I just heard someone say they use squared AND rounded off dice to "make things interesting". Dont they give the same results? I've never heard of doing this. I know rounded dice roll farther, but what difference does that make? |
Tgerritsen | 21 Oct 2015 7:44 a.m. PST |
You need to watch this asap: link |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 21 Oct 2015 8:30 a.m. PST |
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Tgerritsen | 21 Oct 2015 8:43 a.m. PST |
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Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns | 21 Oct 2015 9:33 a.m. PST |
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warhawkwind | 21 Oct 2015 10:06 a.m. PST |
Thanx folks, I knew I could count on TMPers for some info. I've usually used clear dice as it just seemed to me that mixing swirls and sparkles would cause unbalanced results. I'll have to question my source about his choice of mixing dice together. |
Flashman14 | 21 Oct 2015 11:32 a.m. PST |
I don't have 20 minutes to watch that. Can someone bottom line it? |
Spudeus | 21 Oct 2015 12:03 p.m. PST |
I personally have converted over to Gamescience (squared) dice. Not as pretty, but I'm convinced they do give a more balanced, truly random result. Someone actually did a study of thousands of die rolls, and Gamescience's probability curve was more consistent. Apparently rounded dice are rolled around in tumblers, but some corners are 'tumbled' more than others. |
miniMo | 21 Oct 2015 12:35 p.m. PST |
Small rounded dice may be pretty, but they can't fight well. Can have up to 30% chance of rolling 1s! Big square Yahtzee dice are your next best friends to balanced Backgammon or Casino dice: link |
Maddaz111 | 21 Oct 2015 1:21 p.m. PST |
buy lots of dice .. roll them and segregate them by roll.. reroll and segregate each sub pot, any dice that rolls 4 consecutive ones.. give to your opponent as a Christmas present.. – keep the ones that rolled 4 consecutive 6s.. (really need to do it thousands of times .. but I normally only do it to twenty levels and put the dice in the lower quartile in my opponents jar..) |
Great War Ace | 21 Oct 2015 2:36 p.m. PST |
Lou Zocchi, I hardly recognize ye. Nineteen minutes to expound on lopsided dice?… |
Dynaman8789 | 21 Oct 2015 6:04 p.m. PST |
Unless a die is so horribly misshapen as to be visible the difference in actual usage would be negligible at best. |
darthfozzywig | 21 Oct 2015 9:14 p.m. PST |
You'd be surprised, Dynaman. Some good videos of people floating their dice and giving them a spin, and even when "even" to the naked eye, they give skewed results. |
Dynaman8789 | 22 Oct 2015 1:27 p.m. PST |
It would take a LOT of rolls, hundreds, before I would believe it. The differentiation caused by throwing them negates almost any other variable – once again unless they are really out of whack (and I've seen some like that) |
coopman | 22 Oct 2015 3:35 p.m. PST |
I don't believe. I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid either. |
Winston Smith | 22 Oct 2015 5:31 p.m. PST |
Does it really matter all that much? I don't roll my D20s in a glass of oil and let come to a natural rest. I throw them on a hard or cloth surface. And they bang into things. The same with my Buckets O'D6. I find all this searching for imaginary edges or subtle flaws laughable. |
Great War Ace | 22 Oct 2015 7:15 p.m. PST |
I have some little wooden D6s. Of course they are not precise. You can't see it but there is no way that they are "even". I was rolling one of them this evening, and it rolled a "3" no less than five times in a row. Of course I blamed the die. But then I simply changed the way I was rolling it and got the whole random range of numbers. Sometimes conditions mess with you. That doesn't mean that a given die is "prone" to roll one number more than another…. |
DHautpol | 28 Oct 2015 8:09 a.m. PST |
"I find all this searching for imaginary edges or subtle flaws laughable." The expression "too much spare time" springs to mind. |
DHautpol | 28 Oct 2015 9:39 a.m. PST |
I should have put "I agree, " at the beginning of my comment. Left it too late to edit. |