| Irish Marine | 14 Sep 2015 6:30 a.m. PST |
Hey all I need painting guide for NATO and Pact armor and infantry for the new FOW 15mm 1983-86, using Vallejo paints can anyone help out? |
| HistoryPhD | 14 Sep 2015 6:35 a.m. PST |
Depends on how late in the Cold War you want to go |
| MajorB | 14 Sep 2015 6:44 a.m. PST |
I think you're going to need several shades of green and maybe some browns and greys. Here's a few examples to get you started:
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| McWong73 | 14 Sep 2015 8:28 a.m. PST |
Get either the AK Interactive or Ammo from Mig Nato colours or Modern Russian, though the Yanks require a tan. Got all of them, they're good. |
| ScoutJock | 14 Sep 2015 10:34 a.m. PST |
Bundeswehr vehicles: prior to 3 tone camo everything was Gelboliv RAL 6014, which I have never found a Vallejo color to come close. Model Master makes an really good match though called NATO Olive but I think it is enamel only. It is also the same color the Belgians, Dutch, Italians and just about everybody except for the U.S.and UK called Khaki Drab. NATO was switching to three tone camo around the time you reference. Vallejo 975 Military Green, 871 Leather Brown and 995 German Grey are acceptable matches. If you want model air look for 612 NATO Green primer, 249 NATO Brown and 251 NATO Black. UK vehicles were 897 Bronze Green with wide bands of 995 German Grey. U.S. Vehicles in USAREUR were MERDC Winter Camo, which was 893 U.S. Dark Green, 873 U.S. Field Drab, 988 Khaki and 950 Black. The M1s and M2/3s started showing up about the time you reference and they were Forest Green which Vallejo says is 975 Military Green. This does not take into account weathering or scale effect so YMMV. |
| Irish Marine | 14 Sep 2015 11:04 a.m. PST |
Very nice guide thanks everyone. |
| HistoryPhD | 14 Sep 2015 12:06 p.m. PST |
Model Master actually makes Gelboliv under that name. It's actual RAL 6014 |
| Onomarchos | 14 Sep 2015 4:40 p.m. PST |
ScoutJock, Glad to see someone talking about M1/2/3 colors. I see that FoW has them in MERDC … which I never say while I was in Europe. Until we went to 3 color NATO, they were all Forest Green. I had a motor pool sgt indicate that there was never an official MERDC template for these vehicles. I have seen a few pictures of CONUS based vehicles painted in MERDC, but not many and they were apparently unofficial approximations of what a MERDC approved paint scheme would look like. Mark |
| ScoutJock | 14 Sep 2015 6:40 p.m. PST |
The only place I ever saw M1/2/3s in MERDC was the equipment rotational units would draw at Ft Irwin. This is a pretty good link for MERDC camo. link |
| Lion in the Stars | 14 Sep 2015 6:59 p.m. PST |
Lifecolor makes a set of MERDC paints, they're quite nice. Super-thin, they're intended for airbrushing. |
| HistoryPhD | 14 Sep 2015 7:25 p.m. PST |
MERDC was just a basic pattern and a percentage of the vehicle to be covered by each color.
Whoever did the actual painting was allowed to freehand it, as long as they adhered to the percentages and the overall general pattern |
| Mako11 | 14 Sep 2015 9:46 p.m. PST |
Yea, I think it was 40% – 45% of the two major colors, and 5% – 10% for the sand and black. Supposedly, at some point in Europe, they ran out of the sand color, so stopped applying it. Based upon my previous inquiry, and responses here, it seems most vehicles in Europe were painted in the Winter MERDC scheme of Green and Brown, instead of the two-toned Green Summer scheme (the latter was used more, stateside, apparently). Also, apparently, they didn't repaint the vehicles by season, as was originally intended at one time. |
| Sudwind | 14 Sep 2015 9:48 p.m. PST |
I will have to get the Lifecolor set. I have a few of their paint sets and they are spot on in color and finish! |
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