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Tango0109 Sep 2015 11:01 p.m. PST

"The current debate about women in the infantry takes place in an artificial context, because it nearly always self-limits the discussion to physical capabilities. Within these incomplete parameters, the argument is then set, and the preamble is that physical standards and performance are measurable and what is not measurable is subjective and probably unfair.

Once physical quantifications are set as the only requirement that matters, it then stands to reason that if you can define infantry requirements in terms of, for example, a number of pull-ups, a hike with 60 to 80 pounds of extra weight, or carrying a 180-pound simulated casualty to safety, then you can assess whether females are suited to infantry units.

Honest and informed observers will acknowledge that medical science indicates that, in the physical domain, the two genders are an unequal match. Even a very fit woman is not generally the equal of a fit man. The competition is no competition in aerobic capacity load bearing, reach, body fat percentage, and other germane measures of combat fitness. But (the informed argument proceeds), even if it is only the top 5 percent of women who can replace the bottom 5 percent of men, why not allow the 5 percent to integrate and thereby improve the combat efficiency of the unit? For example, it has been argued Ronda Rousey — the accomplished and undoubtedly tough mixed martial artist — could be an excellent addition to an infantry unit…"
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Mako1109 Sep 2015 11:48 p.m. PST

There's this little thing called sexual dynamics, and another referred to as unit cohesion.

Reportedly, if you mix one, or just a few females into a squad, or platoon, things happen. Biological imperatives that are hard to suppress, and that tend to disrupt unit cohesion and discipline, no matter how many rules you make up to try to thwart it.

I suspect a similar issue might crop up if you did the same with one or two men, in a large group of women, as well (perhaps not quite as pronounced an issue in this case, but present, nonetheless).

foxweasel09 Sep 2015 11:59 p.m. PST

That's the best article I've read on this subject.

Tango0110 Sep 2015 10:04 a.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it my friend.

Mako11… "tensions" between men happened either… not all the soldiers are etherosexuals… I have seen this even in war at the front line…

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse10 Sep 2015 3:10 p.m. PST

Some very good points in that article …

Tango0110 Sep 2015 11:38 p.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it too my friend!.

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