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Red Over Blue03 Aug 2015 6:28 a.m. PST

Hello all,

I have posted an article outlining the techniques and methods used on the Panzer II ausf A/B/C model from Warlord Games (1:56) that I painted recently, including a tutorial on making simple aerial recognition flags out of tin foil.

Come take a look:

link

GROSSMAN03 Aug 2015 10:24 a.m. PST

Nice craft.

Terry3703 Aug 2015 6:57 p.m. PST

Nicely done. I will have to consider using something similar for the PzIIIL I am working on.

Terry

CaptainDarling04 Aug 2015 5:06 a.m. PST

Excellent work!
But being a 1939 vehicle shouldn't it be in the two colour grey/brown paint scheme?

Disco Joe04 Aug 2015 5:46 a.m. PST

Looks good.

Red Over Blue04 Aug 2015 6:27 a.m. PST

CaptainDarling,

From my research I have found that vehicles in the 1939 campaign were a nice mix of the grey-brown camo and solid grey. I have painted all of my friend Phil's 1939 German armour, with a mixture of the two styles:

Armoured cars in solid grey: link

Tanks in camo:
link

Tanks in solid grey:
link

CaptainDarling04 Aug 2015 6:50 p.m. PST

Hi Feel The Rain,
Could you please share your research showing German Vehicles were in the full grey colour scheme in 1939 I'd love to see it…
THANKS!
panzertracts.com/PZfacts.htm

ScottS05 Aug 2015 1:26 p.m. PST

I'm not convinced one way or the other.

But these sure look solid grey to me…?

mgk416718 Aug 2015 4:34 p.m. PST

hmmmm
I've been studying France 40 as my Campaign of Choice for almost 40 years. I'm not convinced that all armoured vehicles in France in 1940 were painted in grey and brown disruptive patterns. Just because regulations are issued does not make it so. Just because you cannot see something in a photo does not mean that the two shades are there. The Germans seemed to have worked out pretty quickly that it was a waste of time to paint both grey and brown as the two shades gave negligible contrast. I suspect that the regulation was issued to catch up with what was already wide spread practice. Do I have any proof of that? No, but photos like the above, and British intelligence reports that state the tanks were grey, suggest that it was at best a mixed situation. I also have my doubts when something is 'clarified' the further we get away from when it actually happened.
While I'm on this vague rant, the same goes for 251s in Panzer Divisions in France 40. Sure you can point to a TO&E that states each division was supposed to have a company mounted in them but production fell well behind and 1st Motorised Regiment in 1st Panzer kept all of theirs so had the whole regiment mounted. So you have the situation where a regulation says one thing and actual practice is contrary. So be a little careful of pointing to regulations when practice can be different; I was a soldier for over 30 years and saw that difference every day.
PS: I'm not repainting my grey vehicles….

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