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gamer127 Jul 2015 7:26 a.m. PST

Okay I know there are some experts on here that will know this or a link to find it, I need some help. I am trying to do a small mini campaign that starts when Lee crossed into Maryland in 63 leading to Gettysburg.
I am mainly looking at the corps/Cav Div level, the troop size and location of each side and even corps that could have gotten involved but didn't. The notable generals making the key decisions would also be helpful although I think I know them:)
Third, IF anyone happens to know the division quality of each side that would be great, for example division X performed very well for the north division y and z performed poorly, division A was the best the south had and performed excellently….etc. Also I am thinking the south had around 200 arty, was the north about the same or more?
Like I said the main thing I am trying to find is where each sides forces where when lee crossed the river. Thanks in advance for any help guys!

donlowry27 Jul 2015 7:42 a.m. PST

The first part of Lee's army to cross the Potomac was Jenkins' cavalry brigade, with was probably the worst, and worst led, in his army. Followed by Rodes' Division of Ewell's 2nd Corps, which was a good division (formerly D. H. Hill's), adequately led. (Rodes did well at Chancellorsville, his first battle in divisional command, but not so well at Gettysburg, where he failed to take part in the attacks on Cemetery Hill/Ridge.)

DOUGKL27 Jul 2015 5:54 p.m. PST

If you can get your hands on a copy of "Brigades of Gettysburg" by Bradley M. Gottfried it will give you the strength of each brigade for both sides at the start of the battle. The down side is it is organized in numerical order, i.e. 1st corps, 1st division, 1st brigade, 2nd brigade etc. Since you are doing a campaign the fact that it is not chronological does not matter.

Trajanus28 Jul 2015 3:46 a.m. PST

+1 for Gottfried, excellent book but it should be pointed out that it only covers the Infantry of both sides not the Cavalry if you are using the info for a Campaign.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2015 7:06 a.m. PST

I would also recommend The Maps of Gettysburg. If it is anything like The Maps of Chickamauga which I have read, it will provide just about anything you need. If your local library doesn't have it, then you can probably get it via interlibrary loan.

Jim

gamer130 Jul 2015 7:27 a.m. PST

Thanks for all the helpful input!!!!!

gamer130 Jul 2015 7:31 a.m. PST

@ColCampbell, did the one you looked at by chance cover units that where in the area but didn't make it to the battle? The reason I ask is that part of doing a campaign is that I kinda need to know what troops where in Washington, Baltimore, Pittsburg, Harrisburg, etc and other "potential targets" for the southern player depending on how the two sides play it out. I have found getting this info is proving MUCH harder then getting troop counts of the corps involved.

donlowry30 Jul 2015 6:32 p.m. PST

Hooker had stripped out about all of the movable troops from Washington (the Pa. Reserve Division and Stannard's brigade) and the Middle Dept. (Baltimore, Harpers Ferry, etc.) (Lockwood's brigade from Baltimore, French's division from Harpers Ferry -- not joined to the AotP until after the battle)

Gen. Couch (Harrisburg, etc.) was able to put together two good-sized divisions, under W. F. Smith and N. J. T. Dana, but only very late in the campaign, all of it N.Y. and Pa. militia. At first he had only a few regiments that were movable at all, which did their best to avoid running into any Confederates. 1 Pa. regt. got overrun by Jenkins' cavalry (which shows how green it was) at Gettysburg a few days before the big battle there.

There were also a few militia regiments at Pittsburg under "Bully" Brooks; the remnants of Milroy's division in the mountains in between Brooks and Couch; and Kelley's forces in West Virgina, concentrating (slowly) around Cumberland MD.

There were also a few regiments whose enlistments were about to expire that were sent up from the Carolinas, but Meade kept them separate from his "real" army.

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