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ciaphas25 Jul 2015 1:43 p.m. PST

The rules are a little vague, I understand how they move but I am not sure how they spot. I know there is a chart however do they only get one spotting chance like every other unit or is there a range etc.

cheers
jon

deephorse25 Jul 2015 1:55 p.m. PST

AOP?

wrgmr125 Jul 2015 1:59 p.m. PST

Same as any other OP. One spotting chance, roll to spot if necessary.

Deep horse: AOP air observation post, tactically an air ground controller.

alphus9925 Jul 2015 2:03 p.m. PST

I don't have the rules to hand, but isn't there something about there only being one spotting attempt allowed on a target per turn (by any unit)?

ciaphas25 Jul 2015 3:01 p.m. PST

There is @alphus, just checking really. I was reffering to an AOP in something akin to an Auster, is this the same?

jon

deephorse26 Jul 2015 7:33 a.m. PST

Thanks wrgmr1. I've played these rules for years and never noticed that particular TLA! Never used an AOP either.

The rules say that an AOP is limited to 5 moves/turns on table. It automatically spots any unit on table that is moving or firing, except for infantry in woods or buildings. To observe a unit in any other circumstances a test must be taken. There is no range limit.

It's not specifically stated in that section, but my view is that it can only spot/test/bring down fire on one enemy unit per turn.

steveinns26 Jul 2015 8:40 a.m. PST

deephorse, very comprehensive response, thanks for the info. Now refresh my poor grey cells, what is the procedure to try & bring an AOP down with groundfire ?

ciaphas26 Jul 2015 10:59 a.m. PST

AOP's can only be shot at by 37/47mm AA guns.

jon

wrgmr128 Jul 2015 7:45 p.m. PST

An AOP would only control one battery of guns, Just like any other OP.
It's interesting game vs history wise that they only have one battery per OP in the game, when in reality a British/commonwealth OP could call in a regiment, 4 batteries or divisional artillery, 3 medium regiments and 1 heavy or an SOS. An SOS brought in any gun within range in a matter of 3 minutes.
George Blackburn talks about this in his book The Guns of Normandy. He actually called in an SOS on a concentration of Germans massing for an attack. He was amazed how fast and accurate all the guns were. All the 3rd Canadian infantry divisions guns plus extra regiments of heavies and some 8 inch guns dropped in an area the size of a football field.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2015 10:09 a.m. PST

Not so.

8.69 Due to their superior fire control methods British/Commonwealth and American OPs may direct the fire of one additional artillery unit, increasing, from 1943, to a maximum of six batteries (twelve guns) for a British and four battalions (twelve guns) for an American OP (this includes late war Allied units such as the Canadians, Poles and French). An OP can only control more than one artillery unit by radio if a radio exchange vehicle is deployed.

wrgmr129 Jul 2015 12:50 p.m. PST

Marc33594 You are correct! My bad.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2015 10:57 a.m. PST

Not a problem and love the avatar!

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