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huevans01120 Jul 2015 2:13 p.m. PST

Can anyone suggest the strongest, most effective glue for lead figures??

I have been using hobby shop "super glue" to stick my little guys together and it's not that impressive.

Ashokmarine20 Jul 2015 2:18 p.m. PST

Try the locate brand. I have been very impressed with it

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53Punisher20 Jul 2015 2:19 p.m. PST

Hmmm, wonder why? I've been using super glue for decades on lead and have had no problem. I've always filed down any area(s) to be glued until shiny so that a clean surface join was present. Also, I pinned anything that was questionable for added strength. I use Loctite gel as my go-to glue. Maybe change to another brand?

HistoryPhD Inactive Member20 Jul 2015 2:31 p.m. PST

I've also never had a problem. Like 53punisher, I file the area to be joined until it's shiny, then I score the area. I always use Gorilla superglue gel.

Personal logo jeffreyw3 Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2015 2:44 p.m. PST

Everything I've stuck together with Loctite is still stuck. As noted, Gorilla is equally as effective.

Personal logo Dervel Supporting Member of TMP Fezian20 Jul 2015 2:59 p.m. PST

First of all pinning works wonders on large joints…

For small parts I use Duro
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For large joints and dissimilar materials, 5 minute epoxy.
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The epoxy is much stronger, but needs a couple minutes to setup. The joint will be much stronger though.

The separate bottles are much better than the dual syringe since you can store it for long periods of time.

Chris Palmer20 Jul 2015 3:08 p.m. PST

Washing surfaces to be glued is also important. The mold release agent could be hindering the Super Glue. I don't know if filing would remove it, it could just be smearing it around.

JonFreitag20 Jul 2015 4:32 p.m. PST

Two-part epoxy. When pikes or spears are affixed using two-part epoxy, they make a resonating "twang" when put under tension and then released. Very satisfying.

When the same are affixed with super glue, they often break at the joining point. Super glue has much less tensile strength than epoxy.

DOUGKL20 Jul 2015 4:33 p.m. PST

I have had good luck with "Loctite" and if I need something stronger I use epoxy.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Jul 2015 4:39 p.m. PST

Two part epoxy if you really need to glue a big thing together, otherwise super glue should cut it in most cases.

I use either the Gorilla super glue or, and my preference, is the Instacure+ brand.

Note that Gorilla glue itself will not work.

One thing you should not use is the GW super glue, at least not the "thick" kind as it is terrible.

Todosi Inactive Member20 Jul 2015 4:40 p.m. PST

For small stuff I use Gorilla brand Superglue. For larger stuff, I pin and use JP Kwik two part metal epoxy.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2015 4:42 p.m. PST

I've been using Loctite Gel CA for the past several years: no issues and it lasts a long time due to bottle design (and keeping it in the fridge between sessions).

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2015 5:15 p.m. PST

Back in ye Olde Days , superglue used to be much more aggressive.
It was almost pure METHYL alpha cyanoacrylate. It did a much better job of bonding metal to metal, skin to almost anything etc.
Then lawyers appeared on the scene. It's now ETHYL etcetera.
Weaker bonds and diluted.
You need a real industrial glue to get that.

Check the label. If you are lucky it might be methyl.

Rich Bliss Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2015 7:14 p.m. PST

Loctite Super Gel Control. Make sure you have two flush surfaces.

Grimmnar Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2015 10:37 p.m. PST

Too much glue is not a good thing.

Grimm

christot20 Jul 2015 10:42 p.m. PST

The best glue for lead is solder

Martin Rapier21 Jul 2015 1:44 a.m. PST

For those hard to stick things I usually put a dab of blu tak on to hold it in place then slather it in superglue. The blu tak seems to react with the glue in some magic way and produces a very strong instant bond.

Thanks for the info Winston, I thought super glue seemed a lot less sticky these days!

Two part epoxy is probably the strongest, but a faff to work with.

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2015 3:59 a.m. PST

The best glue for lead is solder

Christot, only if it's low melt (less than 120) and your iron's temperature is set to less than 120. If someone uses the typical soldering iron bought in a hardware shop with standard rosin core "handyman" solder, eutectic solder or one of the 60-40 alloy solders, they'll end up with a melted figure.

If you have the gear and know how to use low-melt solders I agree, nothing beats solder.

Dal.

Mirosav21 Jul 2015 5:12 a.m. PST

2-part epoxy (5-minute) or Loctite Super Glue Gel.

CeruLucifus22 Jul 2015 6:22 p.m. PST

2 part epoxy.

Superglue is for things that won't undergo the stress of gaming, or temporary repairs.

I admit I do have some models I built years ago with superglue that haven't come apart yet.

Baranovich Supporting Member of TMP26 Jul 2015 4:23 p.m. PST

I agree with the 2 part epoxy, that combined with pinning is the best solution for lead soldiers, particularly if there are big parts involved like dragons/monsters/large mounts.

Super glue is best for plastics along with actual Testors plastic glue.

My rule of thumb is generally use super glue for plastics with small parts, like Warhammer multi-part sprue kits.

But you need to resort to a stronger adhesive for metals.

jwebster10 Mar 2016 10:38 a.m. PST

Question for people using epoxy

How do you hold the pieces in place while it dries/cures ?

Thanks

John

Zephyr113 Mar 2016 2:03 p.m. PST

Putty or blue-tac, sometimes tape (if the mini co-operates… ;-)

mindenbrush25 Jul 2016 5:10 a.m. PST

Araldite 2 part epoxy, used it for too many years to remember.
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Not keen on the "5 minute" types, I never seem to get a solid bond with it.
I order it from the UK or buy 5 or 6 packs when over there.
Make sure the surfaces are clean, bare metal and provide a 'key' (roughened surface of pin) to help strengthen the joint.
Hold in place with bluetac.

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