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17 Jul 2015 9:40 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "Did the Americans ever official use the Boys Antitank Rifle?" to "Did the Americans ever officially use the Boys Antitank Rifle?"

20 May 2019 5:08 p.m. PST
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Winston Smith17 Jul 2015 6:13 a.m. PST

The thread on the Disney film prompted me to ask.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Jul 2015 6:24 a.m. PST

The Disney film was commissioned by the Canadians, but there was limited usage by the US – army rangers were authorised them for a while, although I think only a handful ever got issued, while the USMC Raider battalions actually used them in action, including nailing a Japanese floatplane with one during the Makin island raid….

link

hocklermp517 Jul 2015 7:33 a.m. PST

Colonel Robert W. Black, Appendix B, "The Battalion" (2nd US Ranger Battalion in WWII), has the TOE for a Ranger Battalion. They were issued 20 "Rifle, Anti-tank, .55 Cal." , 8 in HQ Company, 2 each in the 6 Ranger Companies. They were issued and used "briefly" by the 1st Ranger Battalion, (Black, "Rangers In World War II"). The weapon was "hated" by the men. Five feet long, 36 pounds, vicious recoil and rapidly replaced by 2.36" AT Rocket Launcher.

Jemima Fawr17 Jul 2015 7:55 a.m. PST

I seem to remember them being used in the Phillipines.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2015 8:02 a.m. PST

During the Korean War the Marines borrowed a few Boys ATRs from the Canadians, fitted them with scopes and tried them as sniper rifles

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2015 9:00 a.m. PST

Yes, there is an excerpt from the book on Edson's Raiders
which supports Dom's post above.

Apparently, there were 2 Boys issued to each company
HQ, crew of 2.

CharlesRollinsWare17 Jul 2015 9:26 a.m. PST

As pointed out above, they were acquired by Edson's 1st Marine Raider Battalion and the initial USA Ranger Battalions.

As for the "2,000 yard" Boys ATR sniper rifles in Korea, they were highly modified – they used the Boys stock and frame, a modified receiver, and a USA M2 .50 caliber barrel. It, and other similar types including a specially designed light weight model, allowed for accurate sniping at 2,000 yards plus range.

Reference Peter R. Senich's fine book on US sniping.

Mark E. Horan

Lion in the Stars17 Jul 2015 8:27 p.m. PST

Sounds like a "Historical scenarios only" weapon to me…

lou passejaire18 Jul 2015 6:23 a.m. PST

nobody wanted to use the Boys ATR ;o) at least as an anti tank rifle …

vtsaogames18 Jul 2015 6:31 a.m. PST

The late father of a close friend of mine commanded a platoon of US mechanized cavalry during the Battle of the Bulge. I was told he had a 28mm cone bore AT weapon. All I can find online is a German weapon. Anyone heard of such a weapon in the US Army?

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Jul 2015 8:47 a.m. PST

Never come across one – other than the British Little John adaptor, I can't think of an operational allied taper bore. I'd be surprised if it wasn't a German one that he'd "liberated"….

spontoon19 Jul 2015 11:57 a.m. PST

@ Frederick; Why would the Canadians have Boys AT rifles in Korea? They'd abandoned it for the PIAT in 1943, and would adopt the American bazookas during Korea.

Lion in the Stars19 Jul 2015 8:42 p.m. PST

The late father of a close friend of mine commanded a platoon of US mechanized cavalry during the Battle of the Bulge. I was told he had a 28mm cone bore AT weapon. All I can find online is a German weapon. Anyone heard of such a weapon in the US Army?
Not as a US-made weapon, but GIs are beyond masters at re-using captured equipment.

Griefbringer20 Jul 2015 11:56 a.m. PST

Those German 28 mm cone bore AT guns would not have been particularly common place by late 1944, and especially the ammo supply for such a captured weapon could have been an issue.

In mechanised cavalry platoon they could have probably hauled it behind one of the jeeps, and carried the ammo in it, but it would have been quite some extra load.

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